Biden, Ryan Clash In VP Debate

By: Associated Press Email
By: Associated Press Email

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October 12, 2012

Vice-President Joe Biden and the man who wants to succeed him, Republican Paul Ryan, clashed over the Obama administration's policy in Libya and Iran in the opening minutes of a contentious vice-presidential debate, with Ryan citing it as evidence that it is weakening America's standing in the world.

It only grew more heated, as the two also sniped at each other over Afghanistan and Syria, as well as the slow economy, taxes and the government health care program for the elderly. It was a feisty performance on both sides, with both candidates repeatedly interrupting each other — and the moderator too.

The stakes aren't generally this high in vice-presidential debates, but Biden was under pressure to undo some of the damage from President Barack Obama's lacklustre debate performance last week against the Republican candidate, Mitt Romney, and to restore energy to the Democratic campaign less than a month before the Nov. 6 election.

Ryan, a congressman from Wisconsin who is a generation younger than his opponent, has to hold on to the Republicans' sudden rise in the polls.

The two scrapped seconds into the debate, with Ryan saying the Sept. 11 death of the U.S. ambassador in an attack at the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi was evidence that the administration's foreign policy was unraveling. "That's a bunch of malarkey," Biden retorted — twice. The vice-president also referred to Ryan's accusations as "a bunch of stuff."

The Republican said the administration had failed to give U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens the same level of protection afforded to the American ambassador in Paris. Biden snapped that the budget that Ryan authored as chairman of the House Budget Committee had cut the administration's funding request for diplomatic security by $300 million.

On Iran, Biden defended current sanctions as the toughest ones in history, while Ryan said Obama has allowed Iran to get four years closer to building a nuclear weapon, and accused the White House of ignoring the warnings of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and not standing up for its chief ally.

The candidates disagreed on Syria, with Ryan accusing the administration of inaction and saying it was outsourcing foreign policy to the United Nations. Biden said the last thing the U.S. needs is another ground war in the Middle East, and that if Ryan and Romney want to send troops to Syria they should just say so.

Ryan agreed with Obama's plan to transition out of Afghanistan by 2014, but said that publicizing the date for withdrawal amounted to exposing weakness.

Unlike Biden, Ryan is not a foreign policy expert but stood his ground in territory that is more familiar to the veteran senator and former chairman of the Senate of Foreign Relations Committee. The two also argued over the poor state of the U.S. economy, with Biden saying Republicans must take responsibility for obstructing the economic recovery.

The slow economy has been the dominant issue of the U.S. election, and Ryan cited high unemployment numbers as evidence that there is no economic recovery under way.

Twenty-three million are struggling to work, he said, and 15 per cent of the country is living in poverty. "This is not what a real recovery looks like," the congressman said.

In turn, the pressure was on for Biden to go where Obama did not in his own debate.

He quickly did so, citing Romney's opposition to the administration's successful auto industry bailout, and noting that it was not surprising given the Republican's recent videotaped comment in which he was heard saying that 47 per cent of Americans view themselves as victims who depend on the government and refuse to take responsibility for their lives.

Biden is seeking to regain some of the ground lost after last week's presidential debate, which erased Obama's advantage and boosted Romney nationally and — more importantly — in such battleground states as Ohio. That is especially relevant as the U.S. president is not elected by a nationwide popular vote, but in a series of state-by-state contests.

About 41 states are seen as essentially already decided for Romney or Obama, leaving nine up for grabs, including Ohio. No Republican has ever won the White House without carrying that state.

The 90-minute debate — the only vice-presidential one, — was moderated by Martha Raddatz, senior foreign affairs correspondent for ABC News.

Romney and Obama meet again Tuesday for a town hall-style debate in Hempstead, New York. Their third and last debate is scheduled Oct. 22 in Boca Raton, Florida.

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