Boeing Machinists Ratify 4 Year Deal
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10:30 p.m. Saturday:

Boeing machinists in Seattle, Portland and Wichita have ratified a four year contract offer from the company. Spokesman Bob Wood says 74% of the union membership who voted agreed to accept the deal.

The new contract is unusual in that it is a four year deal. Most aviation contracts are for three years. Among other things, the contract calls for 15% pay raises over the life of the deal.
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2pm Saturday:

Boeing machinists in Wichita have concluded voting on the company's latest contract offer. Voting ended at 2 p.m. Saturday. however, results won't be announced until at least 10:30 Central Time.

Machinists in Seattle, where more than 25,000 employees are on strike, are allowed to vote until 8 p.m. Pacific Time, which is 10 p.m. Central Time.

Union authorities are expected to make an announcement as to whether machinists voted to accept or reject the contract shortly after the Seattle polls close.

Stay with KAKE News and kake.com for the results as soon as they're announced.
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10:00 p.m. Friday:
As machinist workers in Wichita prepare to vote on Boeing's contract, most say they're comfortable with some improvements, especially to issues like job security and pension increases. Those are areas that have caused major speed bumps during negotiations.

"I'm pretty sure that the union heads have said this contract has been worked out and recommended, so they're the people that have looked it over with good scrutiny," said Mike Nuetzel, a Boeing machinist.

Boeing machinists in Seattle, Portland and Wichita could be just hours away from hanging up their strike vests, walking off the picket lines and getting back into work. However, that moment will come only if a majority gives the thumbs up to the company's latest contract offer.

"I think the general opinion here in Wichita is that we're going to go ahead and accept," said Nuetzel.

Highlights of the latest agreement would secure medical costs from 2002 to avoid extra out-of-pocket expenses and adds a general wage increase of 15 percent over the four year life the contract. But the biggest issues, many workers said, were items like job security and retirement benefits, areas that stalled negotiations just weeks ago.

"I feel like it's been addressed to an extent, but maybe not the way everybody would like it, but you're never going to please everybody," said John Lowe, who's also a Boeing machinist.

The new offer would stop Boeing from chipping away at jobs and instead secures over 5,000 positions in parts delivery and facility maintenance. It also states the union can bid for work being outsourced to non-union Boeing facilities. The contract includes language from 2005, preserving coverage for existing retirees, instead of removing them, endangering their coverage.

"They made increases for us and the subcontracting was a big deal," said Nuetzel.

"I don't think there's anything we weren't expecting. I think most of the people have and through it and feel comfortable with what's there," said Lowe.

While workers said they'll have to look to Seattle, who carries the bulk of the weight in this vote, they hope this is the contract that will get them back in the door and back to work.

"It's been a long strike," Lowe said. "I would like to say I hope it's over, but I'm not sure."

Machinists will gather and hand out strike checks at the Best Western airport at 9 a.m. Saturday morning. Union leaders will go over the details of the contract at 11:00. Voting will last until 2 p.m. A majority vote would approve the contract and, if it is accepted, machinists will return to work beginning Sunday.

Stay with KAKE news for complete coverage of the vote all day Saturday on KAKE News at 6 and 10, as well as here on kake.com.

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Posted by: cliff Location: wichita on Nov 4, 2008 at 07:09 AM
lolerz, what do you mean, boeing didnt outsource? they gave the modification center to china from wichita, they gave the major work on the 777 to japan, and other things before the sale to spirit. the modification center was called a bid, but wichita had no chance, not included in the chinese bid was the packing of every desk, drill, shelve, and part and sending to china at boeings expense. if that was included in the "bid" then wichita would still have the work.

Posted by: Annoyed Location: Kansas on Nov 3, 2008 at 08:09 PM
If/when you ever meet me in person and decide then that I am a twit, then you can call me one. But it's hardly fair to call people names until you meet them. I am glad for you that you don't live beyond your means. We don't either. Our house probably cost less than yours, we do not have car payments and don't ask other people to pay our bills. We do give to different charities and to our local schools as well. My husband does not work overtime because we don't depend on it for survival. I agree completely with you that parents do need to cut out the frivolous crap with their kids. Kids don't have to get everything that they want and ours never have. We take nice vacations every couple of years with our kids so that we can share that time with them. There are workers that are exactly like you described. But when you refer to the "twit" make sure you know my lifestyle before you judge me.

Posted by: lolerz Location: wichita on Nov 3, 2008 at 06:49 PM
Boeing sold what spirit ownes to spirit, because of some naughty naughty thinngs they did isnt that correct?? They didn't outsource, they sold what they needed to to keep afloat you twit. I for one am enjoying the time boeing gave us at spirti off. I did the smart thing and saved my money, and didnt live beyond my means with a new house that i shouldnt have qualified for, and new car, truck, boat and bike that i dont need. I have no simpathy for those that are struggling because they bout a 150,000 dollar house when they could have bout one a tad bit less flashy for half of that. To the ones that have kids they need to feed, try cutting out on all the frivilous crap, and get the priorities inline damn it. You will be the kind of person that we all pay for in the future because you ran youre retiremnet out on vacation to the bahamas with in the first 10 years. I'll laugh at you all while sittin in my sunroom of my hand built cabin in the country enjoying what I made of my life.

Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 3, 2008 at 03:21 PM
I do have a say in my benefits & I also say---THE BOEING WORKERS ARE GREEDY!!! They didn't care that the Spirit workers had to take a cut in working hours and they still won't have a full work week for at least two more months. MEANWHILE THE GREEDY WORKERS GO BACK TO A FULL WORK WEEK. Maybe they should have to help support the Spirit workers so they can have food to put on the table for their famalies and so their kids can have Xmas. I'll bet that the GREEDY BOEING WORKERS DON'T GIVE AT XMAS TIME TO THE UNFORTUNATE. Yes I know people who work at Boeing who say that they never give to help others while they themselves have what they want. I CALL THAT GREEDY AND YES I HAVE TOLD THEM SO.

Posted by: Annoyed Location: Kansas on Nov 3, 2008 at 03:03 PM
To 737 Line: You really have forgotten what it was like to work for Boeing haven't you? If the company hadn't sold you out you would have been on strike too. And if your current management would get other customers besides Boeing you wouldn't have this probelm. So if you go on strike in 2 years is it going to be okay for the Boeing workers and the rest of the people in the area to call you greedy, whiny cry babies too? Everyone keeps saying that what goes around comes around. That works two ways you know. It's unfortunate that other workers go caught up in this and this next comment will make you mad as well. But this strike was not about Spirit. It was about the Boeing workers and the company. Boeing outsourced to Spirit. Don't forget that part.

Posted by: cliff Location: wichita on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:05 AM
just look at all those posts calling workers greedy, poor whiney jelous people. get a job where you can have a say in your benifits, not just have to depend on your boss for whatever handouts they let you have.

Posted by: cliff Location: wichita on Nov 3, 2008 at 10:03 AM
by lae, if the engineers strike, as a small union, they cant picket all the gates, after a coupl of days, they will have to picket at only one gate, wherever the company says. planes can still be built without office personell nad engineers.

Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 2, 2008 at 06:27 PM
Dont forget...We still have to worry about the BOEING Engineers going on strike...so Spirit is not out of harms way yet

Posted by: Tracy Location: Kansas on Nov 2, 2008 at 06:15 PM
I do think they are being greedy at Boeing. I think the union is being greedy as well. I think they should all be thankful they have jobs with the shape the economy is in and be thankful they have roofs over their heads and food on their tables. There are people who would love to have a job....no matter the pay. As for the people at Spirit, they have had to cut their hours and wonder if they will have a job because of them. That isn't right. When Boeing goes on strike, it hurts other companies and people. Something that I don't think that they stop and think about. I'm glad it is over for now. People at Spirit, I hope your day will come and you will be rewarded for the hard work that you do to make Boeing look good.

Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 2, 2008 at 03:18 PM
Billie, proud union supporter--everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just so happens that the one stating YOU ARE GREEDY, didn't agree with you. YOU ARE GREEDY!! To all the spirit workers keep your chins up and keep working--THE GREEDY ONES WILL GET THEIRS, IT IS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME. Then they will be crying because someone who was willing to work got their jobs.

Posted by: 737 line Location: spirit on Nov 2, 2008 at 12:17 PM
thank you for voting yes to the contract its about damn time.now us spirit workers can now tell our kids christmas will come the first of feb. i guess the light is finally trying to shine. lets pray nothing happen to our economy no more so we trained professionals can return to at least 5day work weeks. I hope boeing enjoys there wage increase and there BIG bonus that us spirit workers deserve to have also. WE BUILD YOUR PLANES FOR LESS>>> AND ARE TREATED LIKE DIRT> WHEN YOU FLY ON BOEING AIRCRAFT>>> THINK WHOS BUILDING THAT PLANE>> THATS RIGHT SPIRIT>>>> and we are under paid and just grateful to have jobs in this troubling time. MAYBE IN 2010 we too will get a bonus that we deserve and atleast a raise. BUT don't think we are as big as CRYBABIES>>>> we just want work.......

Posted by: Kristi Location: Wichita on Nov 2, 2008 at 12:58 AM
Thank god that's finally over, now only 2 more months of 3 day work weeks for spirit!

Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 1, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Thank goodness! I'm so sick of listening to a bunch of uneducated, overpaid, whiny crybabies.

Posted by: tim Location: wichita on Nov 1, 2008 at 09:45 PM
Machinist in Wichita ready go to work.enought. No more on strike. Please.

Posted by: Billie Location: Kansas on Nov 1, 2008 at 09:14 PM
The union workers are not being greedy, just asking for what they darn well deserve. Unless you really understand what is going on with the union and company, keep out of it. Proud union SUPPORTER!

Posted by: Anonymous on Nov 1, 2008 at 04:04 PM
GO BACK TO WORK!!!THE UNIONS ARE A THING OF THE PAST, THEY ONLY MAKE THE BIG UNION BOSSES FATTER AND RICHER!!!QUIT BEING SO GREEDY---YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY, WHEN YOU GET GREEDY YOU WIND UP WITH NOTHING!!!!

Posted by: Millhouse Location: Ks. on Nov 1, 2008 at 12:24 PM
Union labor is going to bankrupt the auto manufactoring. Can anyone learn from this,greed is a terrible thing.

Posted by: Matt Location: Washington on Oct 31, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Machinists in Wichita please vote yes, hopefully the critical thinking machinists votes will outweigh the votes of the greedy irrational ones. Your brother in Washington State

Posted by: Tracy Location: Kansas on Oct 31, 2008 at 10:38 PM
In all honesty, I think the union and the workers are being selfish and creedy. I don't think they need a raise. A lot of them make more then the rest of us. I understand the job security, but not the 15 percent general wage increase. Please, give everyone a break. Now is not the time to be greedy with the shape the economy is in.

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