Lyons Teen Admits Kidnapping Tale A Hoax
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The father of a Lyons teenager who claimed she was the victim of a kidnapping says his daughter made the story up.

14-year-old Layla Lee told police she'd been kidnapped last week, after going missing for four days. Lee told police she was kidnapped at gunpoint by two men, and held in a locked basement.

Lyons Police said Layla admitted this morning the story was a hoax. Police said it appears to be a case where Layla was at a place where her parents had forbidden her to go.

Layla's father Robert told KAKE News "things didn't happen the way Layla said they did". He declined to give any more details.

Lyons Police have been investigating the case as an abduction, but never released a detailed description of any suspects. Police also said there was no imminent danger to other teens in the community.

Police have forwarded the details of the case to the County Attorney to determine if any criminal charges should be filed.

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Posted by: lulz Location: Wichita on Oct 11, 2008 at 09:55 PM
Anon 10-10 5:16pm. It is gotten way too much attention? Snicker. Also, that was not me posting at 11:15. I would have used this name if it was me.
Posted by: pam Location: winfield on Oct 11, 2008 at 05:27 PM
I find the ad "hosed" for Slattery absolutely horrible. Kids watch that and there is nothing funny about making it look like someone is urinating on someone else. It really shows no class at all. I'm surprised that the channels are continuing to carry it. Shame on all of you.
Posted by: no name Location: rice county on Oct 11, 2008 at 04:43 PM
KAKE do not pull this story, it needs to have as much attention now as when it first was reported. Let her listen to all the concerned people....the pissed off but concerned people!
Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 10, 2008 at 05:16 PM
Everyone focus on how important and cool Lulz is. "It" is so clever it is now posting anonymously! You go Lulz! Make sure that you point out our spelling and grammatical errors! You have so much time on your hands you are still posting comments at 11:15pm, even thought you were on all day yesterday too! What a winner. KAKE! Please pull this story. It's gotten way too much attention.
Posted by: Cheryl Location: Caney on Oct 10, 2008 at 03:01 PM
And another thing. Before you go pointing fingers at someone. You all need to make sure your own hands are clean.
Posted by: Cheryl Location: Caney on Oct 10, 2008 at 02:59 PM
OK People. Enough is enough. Give it a rest. The girl screwed up, she knows what she done was wrong. It's in the past. Forget and go on. She is going to pay for what she done. You all seem to have the answers for her punishment. Well you all know that it is out of your hands. I feel sure that she is embarressed and humiliated. Leave her and her family alone. I think KAKE should pull this story now. It has been long enough. The bashing needs to STOP!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 10, 2008 at 11:31 AM
This is no 'big surprise'. I think everyone knew it was "hoax" except for her parents they wanted to believe her..'what most parents would do'.This should be a lesson to ALL TEENS AND PARENTS!
Posted by: HummerH2 Location: NE KS on Oct 10, 2008 at 06:43 AM
Solution: Southern Style 1) A big hug confirming HER PARENT'S love and thankfulness she was safe followed by a a trip to the woodshed with her Dad 2) A second trip to the Chief of Police and Sheriff’s Office with her Dad for and in-person apology 3) A week or two of extra chores both in the home and the city 4) The townsfolk are appeased, lessons are learned, examples and consequences confirmed 4) End of problem End of discussion Bypass the counselors, psychiatrists, the worthless, time wasting, expensive court actions and the inevitable psychotropic medications
Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 9, 2008 at 11:15 PM
All of the comments with multiple spelling and grammar errors are making me hysterical. Continue on please. Um, honey it would be grammatical.
Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 9, 2008 at 10:05 PM
You have no right to judge her mother for her looks! How do you think you might look if you hadn't slept for days? I'm sure if your kid was missing your appearance would not be your first concern, just as if they had found her dead. You would't have the nerve,to make comments about her family.Walk a mile in someone elses shoes before you jugde. Nobody has the right to judge her family if they wouldn't have reported her missing THEN WHAT?
Posted by: lea Location: wichita on Oct 9, 2008 at 09:52 PM
I'm concerned for this 14 year old. Seriously.....What she did was wrong, and yes she is old enough to know it was wrong. HOWEVER, I do believe she should have to pay some kind of consequence...such as a misdemeanor charge for falsifying a police report, or even worse then that. She needs to know what she did is wrong! She does have some type of mental issues, that do need to be looked at. To be able to "hurt" herself no matter how superficial, that needs to be looked at by a professional, I believe she needs some type of counseling. She needs to know why this was wrong, and why it is a big deal. It's not something that people are going to forget about anytime soon. But I do feel sorry for her and her family for all they go through. Teenage years are very hard years, I'm sure a lot of you guys posting on here can agree with me on that.....so while I agree what she did was wrong, and we all know she deserves some type of punishment, just remember that she needs support too!
Posted by: Parent Location: Rice County on Oct 9, 2008 at 09:41 PM
Weaver, in case you didn't realize, parents are responsible for their children until they are adults. Parents will have to pay for their children's actions. The first interview on the tv showed the mother supposed to be distraut and crying. Yet she never once shed a tear. She just made noise and kept putting her hands over her face. I am a parent and I do believe my children but I also know when my children are lying. I would have drilled her the day she got home. Layla took so much time away from real investigations and this is why she should be punished. In my opinion, her parents jumped at the opportunity to do an interview so that is why they are being judged by the public. If you put your private lives on the news then you deserve what you get. They had a choice and they chose to air their ordeal. I do know my children would never do this and I do know what I would have done.
Posted by: weaver on Oct 9, 2008 at 09:23 PM
parent in rice county whose to say what you would do as a parent in this situation. sounds to me like once her parents figured the truth out, they did the right thing by having her confess, only they know what punishment they gave her for her behavior. I am pretty sure her parents were torn up when they learned what she had done, and maybe just maybe they were able to pull themselves together when the confession came on the air. How did you expect them to act on national tv?? I in no way am defending the girl, and yes obviously she needs some counseling. Our first instinct is to believe our children, and be glad that the worst didn't happen, than just than we can tell when our children are being honest or not. You act like they knew she was lying the whole time. I NEVER said she shouldn't be punished for her actions. I believe she should be but don't believe the parents should be punished for something they did not do.
Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 9, 2008 at 08:41 PM
Lulz, I have been reading your comments and for someone who is so high and mighty you are rather immature. Picking apart the comments of a child and humilating her for speaking her mind takes a special kind of idiot. It disgusts me that you are speaking on behalf of law enforcement because something tells me that you are on the other side of the law yourself. It seems that you are the one who needs to visit an "institution" and possibly seek anger management. You seem like one of those sociopathic indiviuals that prides themselves on being a bully. You furthered this idea by posting on "spelling errors". Too bad we are not all as perfect and all-knowing as you.
Posted by: SB Location: Wichita on Oct 9, 2008 at 08:33 PM
This child wasted the time of everyone involved in this case. People should not be so quick to blame the parents. We were all 14 once and I believe it's safe to say that even the best parents cannot control the lies that sometimes come out of the mouths of teenagers. Admittedly, not every teenager would be bold enough to create a story of this magnitude. She should be severely punished by the court and her parents for what she did. As for those that wonder what she was doing when she was "missing", I don't believe it's hard to use your imagination to determine that answer. It doesn't really matter anyway. All that matters is that she is held accountable. FOR THE PERSON "Lulz"~ you have far too much time on your hands and quite frankly you made yourself look very petty taking up space on a message board posting about grammatical errors. I don't believe that many people care too much about that as they are probably more concerned about the issue. Maybe you should be as well.
Posted by: Parent Location: Rice County on Oct 9, 2008 at 05:55 PM
Weaver, you give that name a bad rep. Layla should be punished for her actions. Her parents aren't innocent in the whole thing. They didn't seem that torn up on the news and when she confessed, Detmer said that her parents encouraged her to tell the truth. They must have known that she lied. Maybe they need family counseling. They need parenting classes so they can tell when their child is having a major crisis. Also where was she for the weekend?? Was she with an older boy?? She didn't look like she suffered at all. Also she needs to do a public apology to the hispanic community. She tareted them and that isn't right. I am a parent and my child would have to do this and would definately do public service even if the court didn't order it. They would also have other punishments!
Posted by: MK Location: Wichita on Oct 9, 2008 at 02:16 PM
Someone needs to inform this girl that there are often many children that actually DO get kidnapped, raped and even murdered! She was wasting the police's time when they could have been helping find other children who were actually in serious trouble! Everyone makes mistakes, but rarely does a mistake affect so many people and risk the lives of others who could have actually used the help of the law enforcement officers that were tricked into wasting their time on miss Lee.
Posted by: ss Location: Lyons on Oct 9, 2008 at 01:31 PM
WOW, see I know of Layla and at lot of what she does that other people might not know, even her own family, and from the start I knew this was all a lie. She put her whole family through a lot and not to forget the people of Lyons as well. She should get punishment for all of what she has done, and the police or her parents, I hope get it out of her on where she really was during the time she was "missing". and if she was with an older guy he should also get punished as well. But her parents shouldn't be the one that has to pay for what she did, she had them and a lot of other people believing that she was missing and its not right for people to be going after the parents, yes maybe they should of taught her better but people should know very well that now a days what the parents tell their kids mostly teens what or how to live their lives the teens are going to rebel against the parents if they don't like what they tell them. I was once like that along with my friends as well.
Posted by: lulz Location: Wichita on Oct 9, 2008 at 01:02 PM
All of the comments with multiple spelling and grammar errors are making me hysterical. Continue on please.
Posted by: Lynn Location: Russell on Oct 9, 2008 at 12:00 PM
All you self rightous lynch mob who thinks a 14 year old child needs sever punishment and one of you even when as far as crtizing her for not doing self mutalation. Sweep in front of your own door before you sweep someone elses. What have your kids done wrong, lied, stole someone said there is a reason a 14 year old lives at home because she isnt mature enough to make good decissions. This was a child who made a bad decission. Punishment yes, shoudl be handed down but the lynching some of you are pleading for is just plain stupid. Grow up.
Posted by: JEN Location: WICHITA on Oct 9, 2008 at 09:02 AM
HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN, SHOULD CAST THE FIRST STONE!!!!!
Posted by: Bob Location: Wichita on Oct 9, 2008 at 08:12 AM
Where is the indignation of the NAACP? The "C" stands for color, are Mexicans not colorful enought? If she had accused two black men, I bet the protests would still be going on!
Posted by: dennis Location: wichita on Oct 9, 2008 at 07:18 AM
she should have to get a job and pay back the city for the waste of time , probation and no drivers license until she is 18 years old..
Posted by: yolanda Location: wichita kansas on Oct 9, 2008 at 01:52 AM
when I seen that young lady the day she was captured and home in the comfort of her home, I knew she was sitting on tv lieing to the world that she was kidnapped. It was something about her demeanor that gave it away. She didn't look like someone that was kept against her will. What I seen was a teenager scared Because the community went out the way to find her. So she had to think of something to tell the public, when she said she didn't know her kidnappers, I knew she had to see who put her in the car. Then she scared herself to make it look good. But I couldn't see how someone could just slice her like that and she didn't know she was cut. Now what I want to know is she going to get in trouble for her false statement? Knowing she seen the news those 4 days and let the community believe she was dead or something. She looked like a problem child. A child that wanted attention. We never got to know what really happen. R we going to hear what happen forreal? Thank You
Posted by: Tracy on Oct 9, 2008 at 12:18 AM
I am afaid this maybe a growing trend among teenage girls. This summer a neighborhood girl did the same thing only she was gone one night. She swore up and down two mexicans in a red truck took her. The sad thing was another neighbor of ours were mexican and owned a red truck. The police scared them to death. Thank God by the end of the night it was all straightened out. What worries me though, is that nothing happened to the girl. There was no kind of punnishment, and the parents ended up blaming the daughters boyfriend. I believe these girl need to be held accountable for their actions, and it needs to be very advertised. This way maybe it could stear other girls away from makin the same mistake.
Posted by: Anonymous Location: Park City on Oct 8, 2008 at 10:17 PM
I know Layla very well. I have known her all my life. I cant believe this happened. I found out last night. I am glad shes okay. But i am very shocked. I hope everything turns out well. I cant beleive she would do such things to her family or her self. I have stood up for her from the beginning and I still am. She may have made a mistake. But everyone makes mistakes maybe they arent as big but people still make mistakes. People should just be glad she is okay and quit worrying about their tax money so much. The good thing is that she is safe. People complain about spendign their tax but no one knew when they were looking for her what happened so they may seem like a waste now but then the money was worth it. Im just glad your okay Layla.
Posted by: Officer's wife Location: Hutchinson on Oct 8, 2008 at 09:14 PM
Hey LEO from Hutchinson I know you're concerned about wasting law enforcement time and money. (If I'm assuming correctly the LEO means Law Enforcement Officer) I happen to know from experience you guys are pretty good at doing that without help from false reports. Anybody remember the spectacle about Brian Green and the Clusters? Lyons PD even admitted that they didn't use any extra resources or time on the case because they didn't take it seriously.
Posted by: LOL Location: WIchita on Oct 8, 2008 at 08:10 PM
OCT 8th at 9:23 - perhaps the best comment I have seen on KAKE in a long time. On a serious note, she does need punished. If she goes unpunished what does she learn? Hey, I can get away with crap like this. It will be interesting to see how this plays out, I just hope that KAKE will do a follow up story.
Posted by: PSY Location: South Central Kansas on Oct 8, 2008 at 06:56 PM
My tax dollars are going towards alot of stuff that I don't necessarily agree with. This girl needs counseling and mandatory community service - not incarceration - not branded with a scarlet letter. Good grief - save your lynching for pedaphiles, drunk drivers, and drug dealers. They are the ones who really waste our tax dollars! Monika - Keep your chin up girl!
Posted by: ed Location: ks on Oct 8, 2008 at 05:39 PM
Another case of crying wolf. She needs to be severly punished for a comlete waste of everyones time, not to mention the anguish caused to her parents!!!!
Posted by: PJ Location: Same County on Oct 8, 2008 at 05:02 PM
This girl cost the county $$$$ Thousands of Dollars in their search for her. I'm very glad that she came out of the ordeal alive. But finding out that she had lied about the whole thing doesn't make me feel any sorrow towards her. It's too simple. She lied, unfortanately her parents should have to pay the bill for the search since she is under 18. I don't want my tax dollars used to pay for this erronious adventure of her's. Our taxes are high enough without adding the expense of this type of idiocy to it.
Posted by: Correy Location: Goddard on Oct 8, 2008 at 04:41 PM
Just another kid that wants to be emo but does not want to cut herself so she will lie and start all this drama for attention rather than self brutalization.
Posted by: ALF Location: Arizona on Oct 8, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Listen, there is a reason that 14 year old girls live with their parents and not on their own: because they make BAD decisions.They aren't emotionally mature enough to be on their own, however much they think they know.Studies have shown that a teenagers brain has a very difficult time discerning long term effects of decisions they make.Their judgement is undeveloped. However,as such, they need to experience real and lasting consequences for the bad choices they make. Discipline with love. Boundaries that are clear and unchanging.A girl like this needs the support of her community as she suffers the consequences of her actions. I do believe she needs to experience the effects of her decision to break the law and lie to the police, her family and her community. I don't think she or her family need to be insulted. Let the letter of the law and those appointed and elected to uphold it take care of the matter.
Posted by: JOEL Location: lyons kansas on Oct 8, 2008 at 11:48 AM
i go to school with her
Posted by: weaver on Oct 8, 2008 at 09:42 AM
How can you bill her for the wasted hours and expense of the LEO. all that really does it make her parent's have to pay for it. community service would be the best rather than actual money. Her parents should not have to pay, they did nothing wrong other than believing in their daughter, which we would ALL do until proven otherwise.
Posted by: Momofthree Location: Wichita on Oct 8, 2008 at 09:24 AM
I don't think this was the parent's fault at all. She's 14 and naive and a girl with raging harmones. The same thing happened in my family last year and what's sad, is the fact that these girls want to feel loved, and when someone shows them how to feel good and feel like they're wanted, they'll do almost anything to keep getting that feeling. I'm sad to say that when my family member went on her little trip, she was beaten severely, and raped, and is now pregnant. All because some guy showed interest in her. This girl would do well in a boot camp or a scared straight program, something to get the point across. There are so many reasons why what she did was wrong, but you gotta look at her side too. She needs to ask herself, was this guy worth it, to lose trust and innocence and friendships? She will never be looked at the same. So even though you might have a lot of words for her, remember, she will suffer too.
Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 8, 2008 at 09:23 AM
jerry, jerry, jerry
Posted by: Mr H. Location: Kansas on Oct 8, 2008 at 09:22 AM
As I have started my day, I keep feeling the we all have started to lighten up the truth of the issue. Kayla Lee lied; this will in turn effect all cases like this in the future. She needs to have a strict punishment and made an example of. This way she can truly learn from this horrible crime.
Posted by: Anonymous Location: hesston on Oct 8, 2008 at 08:42 AM
Monika, I just want to tell you for a young girl you really seem to have your head on straight. I hope that you continue to make good decisions and I hope that your sister will find the help that she needs. I do not believe that for a second that there is any reason for your sister to come up with such a terrible story just because she was somewhere that your parents wouldn't approve. Like I said I hope that you continue to follow the good path that you are on!! You seem like a bright girl. Best Wishes and Good luck to you and your family during this trying time. My thoughts and prayers are with you.
Posted by: Pam Location: KS on Oct 8, 2008 at 08:41 AM
Serious Serious Problems! Putting those scars on yourself, to help make it look like "someone else" did it? Whatever. The 1st time they showed this girl on T.V. you could tell it was all fake! The parents need to put her in Prairie View, for a LONG time. It might help. make her pay, for what she put her parents thru. Shame on her.
Posted by: Marli Location: kansas on Oct 8, 2008 at 08:35 AM
Wow Lots of harsh comments about a poor decision by a 14 year old. Was it a foolish choice? Yes. Will she have to live with that choice? Yes. But all of you willing to lower the hammer let me ask...ever been less than truthful about why you missed a day at work? Where you went on a weekend? What you were doing when you didn't return a friend's call? why YOU were late coming home? It didn't have the same consequences as a police search and a news story but was the original act so different?
Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 8, 2008 at 08:18 AM
She is 14 years old, a lot of kids have done worse she just happened to make her mistakes public! I hope that she learns from this, but I fear will never live it down judging by some of the comments made here! Whats done is done, now it is up to her to fix it, but there is no reason to be so cruel! Hang in there Layla!
Posted by: Mindy Location: Hutch on Oct 8, 2008 at 08:02 AM
MONIKA, This will be tough to deal with for a long time. I know everyone hopes Layla will get some help, and she does need it. I hope that you also can find some support and help. Maybe your school district or church has something available for you too. Often in situations like these people seem to forget the other family members involved and how it affects and changes your lives and relationships too. I know you don't know what to say to your sis, but try to look at things from her angle. She's probably just as embarrassed and now realizes the seriousness of her accusations. She probably needs some people around her who still love her. People her age sometimes don't have the maturity to think about the long time consequenses of their behavior. I had to learn from my family member's mistakes--it's hard being in their shadow for good or bad. Time heals all wounds. Keep your head held high and know that all of this is not a reflection of you or your family. I'm pulling for you girl!
Posted by: Tracey on Oct 8, 2008 at 07:53 AM
MONIKA, I knew your family when we lived in park city, you played with my girls. My prayers are with you and your family. Your sister is the same age as my son. I'd get in contact with your mom again if I knew how. I can be found on myspace or thru email.
Posted by: LEO Location: Hutchinson on Oct 8, 2008 at 07:21 AM
Make an example out of her... Charge #1 Falsely Reporting a Crime... Charge #2 Obstruction of Legal Process... THEN bill her for all of the wasted man hours the police spent working on this fiasco. No freebies on this one.
Posted by: j Location: wichita on Oct 8, 2008 at 06:59 AM
Dakota, obviously you don't know this girl and she did lie and she and her parents need to suffer the consequences of her actions then perhaps the next child will think twice before reporting a bogus crime.
Posted by: Dakota Location: wichita on Oct 8, 2008 at 03:43 AM
i know this girl, she wouldt lie like this....i wonder what came over her head
Posted by: Margaret Location: Wichita on Oct 7, 2008 at 11:51 PM
She made the decision to do this and she should pay the consequences. I think she, herself needs to be held accountable for her actions. I think she needs to give a public apology and she needs to do community service. I feel it needs to be harsh enough for sure.
Posted by: Kristi Location: Wichita on Oct 7, 2008 at 11:41 PM
Why does this keep happening? What are kids being taught? All the kids that pull this kind of stunt need some help outside of the family. People spend time and money to look for a "missing" kid, make the kid pay restitution or community service.
Posted by: MONIKA on Oct 7, 2008 at 11:31 PM
THANK YOU MINDY WHAT YOU SAID REALLY MEANS ALOT. I LOVE MY SISTER, BUT SHE REALLY WENT OVERBOARD WITH THIS ONE.. YOU KNOW HER AND MY MOM SPENT THAT WHOLE DAY TOGETHER JUST HANGING OUT, JUST THE TWO OF THEM AND THEN SHE HAD THE NERVE TO PUT MY PARENTS THEU HELL! I AM SO UPSET I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO SAY TO LAYLA. I'M JUST GOING TO PRAY ABOUT IT BEFORE I SAY ANYTHING.. I DO FORGIVE HER. I FEEL SORRY FOR HER IN A WAY... SHE KNOWS THAT WE ALL LOVE HER VERY MUCH, SHE KNOWS THAT WE ARE HER FOR HER WHENEVER SHE NEEDS US! I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY SHE WOULD PUT US THRU THIS! NEVER IN A MILLION WOULD I HAVE THOUGHT THAT SHE WAS MAKING THIS ALL UP! WOW!
Posted by: Mindy Location: Hutch on Oct 7, 2008 at 10:37 PM
To MONIKA, as you may remember I never believed your sister's story, but I'm glad she's back and safe. I'm so sorry for all that you have to go thru with this crisis. I know the pain of having a family member that doesn't make good decisions. I also know you can get through this. You sound like a good, smart girl who loves her family. I admire you and wish I had your spunk when I experienced a similar situation with my family member. Take care and I will pray for you and your family. PS. I don't blame your family for Layla's mistake. She is her own person. God forgives her and so do I.
Posted by: Parent Location: Rice County on Oct 7, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Well I never believed her story. I think she should have to do several hours of dirty community service to repay her debt to our community. Are we really sure that her close friends, like the one she was supposed to spend the night with, didn't know where she was staying? They need to find out where she stayed and they should be charged with hindering with an investigation. They should have turned her in so she could be punished. Maybe she was with an older man and he will be in trouble for being with a minor under 16. Question this girl and make the story known to the people. I am not saying that the parents need to be punished but they need to pay the restitution with Layla. My child would wish that they could be taken away because they would be doing chores and be grounded from friends and other extras for a very very long time. Maybe she needs to work in an old folks home or hospital to clean up after the sick.
Posted by: Ceecee Location: South Central Kansas on Oct 7, 2008 at 10:22 PM
I knew she was lying!!!..... Why??? Why and How could YOU, do such a LOW DECISION??? Was it PEER PRESSURE??? This type of action isn't worth anything, except giving YOU a VERY BAD NAME...from this point on in YOUR LIFE little girl.. So, it DID NOT have anything to do with HISPANICS or MEXICANS, HUH???? That's really Disturbing. FIND SOME HELP!!!! Little Girl you need it that way you will be able to make BETTER CHOICES later on down the ROAD. "Straighten out your Road"
Posted by: teeda Location: wichita on Oct 7, 2008 at 09:54 PM
Layla Lee needs to think of the people she hurt,by lying.mayb she needs to be put in seclusion on the mental ward all alone to think about how she decieved so many people looking for her.You need to get a life girl.
Posted by: angi on Oct 7, 2008 at 07:12 PM
leave her alone she is only 14 and you all were angles when you were 14 that is a teenager i hope she can get some help
Posted by: Annie on Oct 7, 2008 at 06:53 PM
I can tell you first hand that not all actions reflect on the parents parenting skills. This is so wrong however and the girl should be punished.It is not okay to waste police time and taxpayers money because you want to avoid your parent's ire. She should serve time and pay restitution. And someone get her counseling
Posted by: Mary Location: Kanas on Oct 7, 2008 at 06:13 PM
Sometimes people make very big mistakes that they later regret. I think Layla will have to live with the decision that she made for the rest of her life and it's sad that so many people think that judging her and being outraged will help her over come her obvious problems. Layla needs help more than ever now. I don't know this family but my heart goes out to them. I would be humiliated if my child did that. To quote a famous passage..."He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone." Good luck to Layla's family through all of this.
Posted by: anonymous on Oct 7, 2008 at 05:40 PM
Any takers on my bet? I bet in 5 years we will see this girl on Jerry Springer, complaining about her crappy controlling boyfriend who never helps take care of their 2 nay 3 kids because he is out "earning money" at the local bar (where they first met and fell in love!) JERRY, JERRY, JERRY, JERRY!!!
Posted by: chris Location: kansas on Oct 7, 2008 at 05:25 PM
i thank that the girl ought to be put in juvie and have to pay all the police and kbi and sheriffs wages and she ought to have to do comuity survice and as far as her parents i dont thank they should be in any trouble they went on what there daughter said wether her parents are weathered or not they try to provide for there kids and the girl just wants more send her away to see what its like with out her parents and experiance the real world
Posted by: anonymous Location: lyons on Oct 7, 2008 at 05:12 PM
OMG! What she lied??? Anybody who watched her performance on t.v. knew she wasn't telling the truth. Maybe she should've practiced her story in the mirror, you know so next time she does this, she will be a pro! (and yes, there will be a next time, after all, what kind of trouble is she in? Mom and dad going to ground her? Not let her see her friends? Yeah, that really seems to work!) Don't like your parents rules? Try living in prison, their rules aren't flexible. Wake up at 6:00 am, breakfast, school, lunch, more school, supper, and bed. Want a snack? Too bad. Take a nap? Not today. Need to speak to your friend? Sorry, no phone privilege. Want to check facebook? No computers! The grass is always greener until you get to that otherside. Enjoy your fifteen minutes of fame, you asked and received. Your next performance should be in the Rice County Courthouse, begging for mercy from the judge not to send you away. Oh yeah mom/dad save your pennies! Lies are expensive
Posted by: wtf Location: Wichita on Oct 7, 2008 at 04:59 PM
Because someone looks "weathered" that means they arent good parents and the kids have had a bad life???? Are you serious???
Posted by: MONIKA on Oct 7, 2008 at 04:57 PM
I JUST FOUND ALL OF THIS OUT AND I AM OUTRAGED AS WELL BUT PLEASE DON'T SAY NASTY THINGS ABOUT ME OR MY PARENTS. BELIEVE IT OR NOT THEY DID RAISE US WELL, WHAT LAYLA DID IS ALL ON HER. ANY OF YOU WOULD HAVE DEFENDED YOUR FAMILY, IT WAS MY FIRST INSTINCT. I'M SORRY FOR CALLING YOU GUYS IDIOTS, I WAS HURT.. AND MY MOTHER IS A BEAUTIFUL PERSON ESPECIALLY INSIDE SO PLEASE DON'T SAY THINGS ABOUT HER THIS IS NOT HER FAULT.
Posted by: Anonymous Location: Wichita on Oct 7, 2008 at 04:22 PM
The child need to be punished for what she has done. No IF or An's about it. There also need to be legal action taken towrds her. An i DONT want to here that crap about she dont understand. Well she dose and need to be held accountable for her actions
Posted by: jj on Oct 7, 2008 at 04:00 PM
She should be charged, forced to pay restitution for the cost involved in trying to find her and the cost of investigation and be forced to go on camera and apologize. She should also be made to serve community time with a hispanic organization to make up for her choice of scape-goat.
Posted by: Teresa Location: Lyons on Oct 7, 2008 at 03:38 PM
I knew from the VERY beginning of all this crap that it was ALL crap. The girl wanted attention & got it!! Everything was suspicious & NONE of the stories matched up. It was funny when she had plans & then all of a sudden change her mind. What about the friends that are involved with this?? Why would they just stand up for her & let her lie like that. Police were out looking for innocent human beings & they are all acting!! Why do girls like this have to always blame the "Mexican population?" Maybe she'll learn & hopefully she gets punished!!!
Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 7, 2008 at 03:14 PM
No i think the child needs to be held accountable. There is always someone trying to blame the parents most parents work hard to watch over thir children just to have them pull stunts like this. I think the police handled it like they should of, I think they knew she was lying.
Posted by: Unknown Location: Unknown on Oct 7, 2008 at 02:22 PM
The superficial "cuts" gave it away. The parents need to be held accountable. The mother appears to be somewhat "weathered" and am guessing the children had or have a rough home life.
Posted by: Amanda Location: wgtn on Oct 7, 2008 at 02:12 PM
My question is what are the consequences for her actions? Will there be any legal action taken? There should be! These kids need to know that this is serious and should NOT be taken lightly! It's NOT a joke and it's NOT funny!
Posted by: Den Location: Wichita on Oct 7, 2008 at 01:57 PM
Another little girl who wanted a fling with her boyfriend or another male companion she knew her parents wouldn't agree with. What is wrong with our young females today? Don't they have any sense of self respect or is sex and a good time all they live for?
Posted by: plo Location: wichita on Oct 7, 2008 at 01:56 PM
and who was it that said they knew Layla and she was a good girl from a good family that wouldn't lie about such a thing, well obviously you don't know her to well, shame, shame, shame, and you wonder why people don't believe these stories anymore, and when it really does happen some child won't get the help they need...remember the boy that cried wolf, she needs counseling and perhaps she needs some consequences from this, perhaps when there are consequences from these bogus stories, kids might think twice about doing it. Start prosecuting the child and the mother and father and perhaps it will stop but let's just slap her on the wrist and say don't do it again honey. what a society we have become.
Posted by: lulz Location: Wichita on Oct 7, 2008 at 01:56 PM
Go back and read the comments made by Monika. She called people "idiots", said that Layla "would never put her family through this", and how her "sister isn't like other teens""making up stories to get attention". Well Monika, you asked for it and now you shall receive. You were duped. Defrauded. Conned. All so your sister could go out and party with some guys. If I was wrong about this I would gladly admit it. Do you have any idea how much an investigation costs? If the police had taken her seriously they would have released more details. Yes Layla needs help, however I can assure you that is it not psychological, it is institutional.
Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 7, 2008 at 01:51 PM
Exactly-- And she should be charged or fined for the time that WAS invested in her so called story. A few years back another girl pulled this, and she should pay as did the previous teen that lied. I didnt doubt it was a lie especially when KBI refused to investigate.
Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 7, 2008 at 01:49 PM
HA we were ALL right FAKER!
Posted by: psby Location: Wichita on Oct 7, 2008 at 01:29 PM
Monika was standing up for her family. She's done nothing wrong. And you should feel sorry for her sister, she obviously has some issues that are going to require some professional help. Compassion, not condemnation, please.
Posted by: Anonymous on Oct 7, 2008 at 01:16 PM
And how does her father plan to discipline her???
Posted by: scott Location: Wichita on Oct 7, 2008 at 01:13 PM
I agree lulz, another child abduction which turns out to be a lie! Come on kids face the consequences for your misjudgement. If it happens again for real how is the public going to react? "the sky is falling, the sky is falling.... Who cares... oh gas is cheap!
Posted by: i knew it Location: wichita on Oct 7, 2008 at 01:06 PM
what do you have to say now Monika??
Posted by: lulz Location: Wichita on Oct 7, 2008 at 12:46 PM
I would like to thank all the "friends" who tried to make me feel so sorry for this girl last week. Everything was so screwed with this girl and her story, how anyone believed it is beyond me.
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  • Posted By: bobby: not a chat room !!!!
  • Posted By: Anonymous: Really, Kake - Can we move on?
  • Posted By: : totally unreal i didnt need that i thought i cleared myself up and im not defending him in any way he sounds like and idoit
  • Posted By: Totally unreal: Alan doesn't need anyone to defend him, however, I'm going to step in and say this, Anon, you are clearly misinformed. Look at two of the posts by Alan below and please read them carefully. You will see that it says that his wages which were negoitated by Union paid for his house. Meaning that he worked for and earned the right to buy his home. Posted by: Alan Location: Wichita on Nov 24, 2008 at 11:45 AM I forgot to mention, my $300,000 house to which my UNION wages has paid for, is all but paid off. I am sorry, you imbeciles shooting off your mouths, where is it you said you live, Plainview or was it Oaklawn? Posted by: Alan Location: Wichita on Nov 26, 2008 at 07:42 PM The "union" did not pay for squat, I paid for my house. I do have a life, in fact, we are flying out to spend turkey day in Miami and spend some of my unemployment checks. I will drink a couple pina coladas on the beach for you though!
  • Posted By: : alan you said once that the union paid for your house and than you said they didnt for sure i know they didnt pay out of their own pocket thats not what i was saying like someone mis read my comment and thought but you did say that read the comments over just trying to keep you from contradicting your self
  • Posted By: Peg: That should have been airplane (typed too fast and didn't proof - shame on me)
  • Posted By: Peg: Think what Alan was really trying to say is that instead of maxing his credit cards to the limit, running up huge debts, he did what a SENSIBLE person would do. That would be live within their means; save up and pay for what they want instead of going out, getting married, buying a new house with all new furnishings, two new vehicles and then worrying about how to pay all the bills, like so many people today have done. Live within your means and wait until you can afford something before rushing out and buy it. That's what has gotten the country in the mess that they are in now. GREED.... I feel for those who are laid off at this time. Anyone who works in an airplace manufacturing company should automatically know that you have the potential for lay offs every year and that you should have 6 months of living expenses at least saved up. Same goes for a strike year!
  • Posted By: Alan: Anonymous, I see you still are running your mouth without your brain engaged, that is so......YOU! Do you not know how to read? If you can read, can you comprehend what you have read? Obviously not. I have never said the union paid for my house, I have said that “union negotiated” wages has paid for my house, BIG difference! And yes, I do have the right amount of zeros on my house's worth, let's see, a three with five zeros following. It is to bad that everything has to broken down so much for you to be able to understand anything being written on here. I know, you probably need pictures to go with the typed words to be able to understand. Oh, and thanks for asking, I had a great time in Miami, and the Keys.
  • Posted By: Nick: My comment was not about what Alan said, he commented below that the union did not, and has not bought him or anyone else anything, and never will. This is it for me, you all commenting on here are whacked.
  • Posted By: Anonymous: Great previous comment. What is wrong Alan, you can't even remember what you are saying. Maybe you have 1 too many zero's down for your home!
  • Posted By: Nick: I have to comment on this one. What in the world makes anyone believe that Local Lodge 639, which represents Spirit Aerosystems, is going to buy ANYONE a house, at ANY price? That is the most ridicules comment I have ever read! You people make comments about this Alan's IQ, then write something like this, I can't believe this person is serious because it is way to comical.
  • Posted By: : Alan didnt you say the union paid for your house???
  • Posted By: Mark: I think what Alan was talking about, was IF we get laid off from Spirit, fully laid off, the max unemployment benefit per week would be $424.00. From what I have read, he is also on a three day work week. I would say if he can live on "full" unemployment, he is pretty much debt free, and probably manages his money well. JMO.
  • Posted By: jeri: alen: i do not know were you work becuase it cannot be spirit or boeing becuase the people i know who are getting unemployment are only getting 67$ per day that they do not work.my husband has only gotten a few checks and still works 3 days a week.so to me u must not work eny were there are layoffs.of working less days.or you would not be going to miami and drinking eny thing.all i know is i cant pay dec.house payment i pay my bills to keep the house warm and to have lights.but this christmas will not happen.so no one can send me to collections but the house we will probably lose.and we are not living beyond our means.we are just trying to get threw this like a lot of others and we are not telling people that we are getting more money then we are.so stop.
  • Posted By: happy: since boeing is laying off, spirit will be next, just wait and see. so remember how many times you scrapped a part and missed work, cause seniority will not matter. if they dont need you in the dept, then you should be let go...........
  • Posted By: Dani: Alan you are a JERK!!!! My heart and prayers go out to all the family around the USA that are low on money this season b/c of the economy. Keep your heads held high and your hearts full of God and love. The TRUE meaning of the holidays will be remembered this season!
  • Posted By: Mark: Just think J, if he hits bottom, he will be on your level.
  • Posted By: J: Hey Alan just wanted to let you know everytime to re-ply to a comment your IQ drops a couple more and you might be one of us idoits.......Just think a few more and you won't have to lower your self anymore...
  • Posted By: Alan: The "union" did not pay for squat, I paid for my house. I do have a life, in fact, we are flying out to spend turkey day in Miami and spend some of my unemployment checks. I will drink a couple pina coladas on the beach for you though!
  • Posted By: ____: Alan I really didnt care about what you were saying about boeing all that stuff but the thing that really bugged me was how you act like your soo high class top notch with your $300,000 house and looking down on people that live in oaklawn or plainview? People like you should be ashamed of yourselves. Just because its not a house worth "300,000" that by the way the UNION paid for not YOU! atleast they have a home that they bought their own! and have a place to raise their families and have memories in.. And I agree with the person that comment "ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD WOULD NOT CHANGE WHO YOU REALLY ARE".. so let me lay this flat out. Get a life Alan go sit in your $300,000 house that you adore and go have your thanksgiving dinner with your family! And stop sitting online typing rude and unnecessary stuff. REALLY ALAN GET A LIFE!
  • Posted By: Elaine: A.C....sorry, my bag on the working thru the holidays.
  • Posted By: Bill: Boeing will survive in Kansas; the union may not. Unlike Michigan, Kansas is a right to work state and therefore, the company does not need to negotiate with the. The recent events of business collapse may be a good thing for Kansas workers and not so good for Everett, WA.
  • Posted By: William: Alan has finally said something that I agree with whole heartedly. After reading numerous comments from people that are cheering about people losing jobs. It sickens me. Someone below said, "They make their bed, now they have to sleep in it." How mature. I am sure that their kids will enjoy sleeping in that bed also. I honestly do not think that the strike had as much weight as people are placing on the lay offs. It is overall the economy. I feel for the families that will be suffering this year, on top of the current world market and our own now a lot of Wichita area people are being laid off. My prayers go out to you and yours and I hope that even if you are forced to have a Christmas without gifts you are able to remember and be thankful that you have your family. To Alan and others that have stated the same, I commend you for bringing up these hateful comments that people are making about those going without. Hopefully Wichita will rebound and work will be plentiful again. God Bless
  • Posted By: Alan: You are correct. I had to really lower myself to communicate with some on their level, about the inexcusable comments made about working people. I would suggest you do some soul searching also, before I was to call another an idiot on here, or anywhere else.
  • Posted By: To Alan, Again: First off, Alan, I dont make 5.50 an hour, I make almost 20 and I perform a service to the community for my wages. I do not and have never received a handout. Even when I was in the Marine Corps and didnt make enough money during the california blackouts of 99-00 to pay the electric bill I still managed without handouts. However, there are people that work and need them and accept them. They need them because they do not buy expensive things for themselves or their family. I stand up for those people because they are too busy working multiple "slop house" jobs to comment. By some of your comments you would think that you were an educated man, then you start with the excessive insults and completely remove all doubt that one might have about you being an idiot. I am done arguing with you on a news comment board. Go on with your life in your 300,000.00 house continuing to spat in the direction of those "under" you, all the money in the world would not change who you "REALLY" are.
  • Posted By: Alan: Anonymous, Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!! Then you and others should only comment on FACTS. People are losing there jobs, who the hell cares if it is Boeing, or Burger King? These “people” are getting laid off due to contracts being completed, not because of a past strike, you and everyone else knows it! The sick comments CHEERING that these families will suffer is ridiculous and uncalled for. Some on here sicken me. See, no insults, even though some fully deserve to be insulted. I will leave you all to waller in the demented comments that some you seem to think makes you clever, it dose not, just in reverse. No, sorry, no friends here, just sicko's.
  • Posted By: : AWWW...sounds to me like Alan has nothing better to do then sit around and yell on kake.com. I am gonna guess by his attitude that he has no friends so he is trying to make some here. Alan, honey, it's not workin'!
  • Posted By: : Alan, when you add all your insults to others and brag about how much your house is it diminishes your valid comments. If you want people to take you seriously just state the facts and leave out the insults.
  • Posted By: Alan: Handouts??? I don't need handouts like you obviously have collected. I have plenty to carry myself through any layoff, and then some. Go back to work, and collect your $5.50 an hour! Maybe I will tip you in the slop house you work at.
  • Posted By: JD: "Alan"...once again on another subject you showed your maturity......way to go buddy......when in all reality you are the one living in a trailer in plainview or oaklawn.....what a loser.....The offer to meet for Lunch still stands clown...
  • Posted By: To Alan - Cont: People like you make up Citibank and other companies that expect handouts when they fall on their face. No one here cares about your house. You are the type of person we could all do without.
  • Posted By: Alan: I forgot to mention, my $300,000 house to which my UNION wages has paid for, is all but paid off. I am sorry, you imbeciles shooting off your mouths, where is it you said you live, Plainview or was it Oaklawn?
  • Posted By: JD: ok "wow" they made their own bed now they have to sleep in it
  • Posted By: Wow: It never amazes me anymore the comments on here. People are going to go without for whatever reason and people are actually cheering. I dont like the strikes and I am not an aircraft worker, but to cheer because others will suffer is really ignorant and pathetic. I have made fun of rivit drillers in the past, but never laughed at them when they were struggling.
  • Posted By: Amanda: Way to go "To Alan"! WOW! I have one thing to say... Alan - you are the weekest link... Good bye!!!
  • Posted By: To Alan: Yes I was thinking when I submitted the quote about commercial cuts. I can even think about all sides of this issue (unlike you who have tunnel vision and are obviously incapable of seeing the other side - typical union freak if you ask me, and yes I've know several. Worked w/them for 8.5 yrs at the big "B"). So Alan, you go ahead and keep your little rose colored glasses on, continue to disregard the obvious (strike hurt them, now they'll get theirs AND have the last laugh). I hope you have the ability to get over this, as the Mexicans will soon be doing your job, just as well as you do it (or better) and be happy to make the $8 or $10 an hour they'll be paid. Mark my words Alan, on this subject - you SIR are the uninformed moron!!!
  • Posted By: : Perhaps you can do a better job managing Boeing, Alan? Maybe you should have put in for a promotion. Keep in mind that the ultimate goal of a manager is to make money for the shareholders, not to make disgruntled employees happy. No matter what they do, they will never be able to please everyone. Some people will never be happy. Are you one of those? You'll really be upset when they fire you for posting irate comments concerning the company on an open forum. Guess you really are the only smart person in Wichita!
  • Posted By: jeri: spirit employes have clock to some vac if they have it to use. get it strait before u speak. people have gone threw there savings and 401k. so to all who thinks this is funny.bevery carfull.my husband has given to local charities for the holidays. and now we are the ones whos kids will go with out.spirit did not ask for this. are u going to give my kids there help for the holidays.
  • Posted By: AC: Elain--yes it is 'nice' of them to give a 60 day notice, but I found it humerous that you said work 'through' the holidays. Boing / Spirit get 2 full weeks off with pay for the holidays...no wonder they are having to lay off.
  • Posted By: carroll: alan- ur right. dun is dun. i'm glad i'm on the west side of oliver-- best place to be right now. i'm still on 3 day weeks as a result of the strike. i'm really cramped right now, but i support the east siders 100%! i'm not clear on what current bail outs has to do with 800 being laid off or what McCain has to do with contracts that expire. now i will agree that there are boobs in management. it's that way EVERYWHERE! it's called- promote the incompetent. so they don't hose up everything on the floor. where the real work and productivity happens. a thousand managers have no job with out 10,000 to manage. i've been a manager. everyone loves to blame management for all their woes-- it's cheap and easy. not all decisions are bad even if we don't like them. not all are wise, and proven so in the long run. i've got to work. I will decide what MY approach to today will be. life sux. get over it. get on with it. it'll get better.
  • Posted By: Alan: Jack, I must have hit a nerve? Most managers at Boeing and Spirit are incompetent fools that could not lead a fish to swim in water. It is because of these manager/CEO morons, that these companies, banks or whatever, are in the mess they are in.
  • Posted By: Alan: - Contrary to what some believe, the cut backs on the military programs at Boeing, have nothing to do with Spirit. Boeing is laying off because the contracts are FINISHED, COMPLETE, DONE. Has NOTHING to do with the strike. - And to Anonymous, if Boeing "commercial" cuts back, of course it will affect Spirit, what are you thinking, or are you? - When Boeing came out in the NEWS, and said they were thinking of dropping out of the bidding process, that pretty much summed it up for me. - Yes N, they are there comments, but they are based on nothing but ignorance, none of it is based on fact.
  • Posted By: jack: 1. I was against the first bailout of the financial companies. 2. I am against any other bailout plan. 3. Let the auto industry file bankruptcy to negate union contracts. 4. execs of failing companies should lose jobs or at least large part of salaries. 5. I believe current layoffs are due to economy in large part, but recent strikes have impact too. 6. Union members pay attention to item 3 above or you will be next. 7. Alan shut up! the reason people get promoted is becaues they show leadership skills & qualities you obviously do not have. You Alan are one of the sheeples who blindly follow the leader. You had better hope your leader (the union) are not lemmings.
  • Posted By: Annoyed: Gee, this wouldn't have a thing to do with Sen. McCain wanting to open the bidding for our Military Tanker to a foreign country. Or the fact that once Boeing cried foul and got it stopped the current administration wants to wait and let the new administration handle it. Or that the CEO's and other upper crust at Boeing want their bonuses and perks. Either the brain surgeons on this site can't understand the news or read the paper.
  • Posted By: Response to Anon: If you look at Japan, you will see that when companies start doing poorly, the executives take a decrease in pay because they are considered the responsible party. That's not the case in the USA. They start cutting the little guys here, then reward themselves for increasing profitablity with nice fat raises. I'm not a fan of unions, but I do realize they are NOT what is bringing down our industry. It is crappy management and shoddy accounting practices.
  • Posted By: Just an Observation: You guys are all correct!! It's those evil UNION guys making less than 100k a year sucking all the money out of the companies. It couldn't be all the CEO's, managers, supervisors and supervisors over supervisors bonuses, could it? Profits aren't going to be what they have been, so the only way these clowns are going to get the hefty bonuses they are used to is by cutting overhead. We all know the big dogs aren't going to get rid of themselves, so they boot the workers. They get a HUGE bonus and the remaining workers get MANDATORY OVERTIME. All the while the public p*** and moan about those evil unions.
  • Posted By: : So, Alan the Spirit worker: does this affect the commercial side "Boeing Co. has seen its orders peak and the number of commercial planes in its backlog will probably decline going forward." I
  • Posted By: Curious: Alan, When did Airbus officially get the bid? I thought Boeing lodged a complaint and it was still up in the air... Just curious.
  • Posted By: : Look at the quote in the story: "taking steps to restructure our business in order to lower our rates and become more affordable for customers." This IS about the bottom line. The price a customer pays for a product includes labor costs. Strikes cost millions. Unless the government bails out the auto industry, (a short term fix at best) labor unions there will be gone. One of the foreign companies will buy buildings and equipment for pennies on the dollar, capturing capacity and market share. They can take all the time they need, hire anyone they want, and in the meantime car prices go up, incentives go down, and spare parts are hard to come by. They have the operating capital to do it. Why? Because their current workforce strives for continuous improvement and cost reduction, instead of whining about their pay rate and haggling over details when they are already fairly compensated. Unless drastic changes are made, aircraft will soon be circling the drain as well. Wake up people!
  • Posted By: Deanna: It's a good thing they striked. They would have still had the layoffs so at least you stuck up for yourselves and got a more resonable contract.
  • Posted By: n: Boy, Alan seems to be the smart one out of the bunch. Using words like morons, stupidity, and idiots. Hey Alan why don't you post your comment and leave the insults out. Their not stupid or idiots or morons; it's their comments.
  • Posted By: n: I said when you were striking that you might win in the negotiations but that you'd lose in the long run and ah...I was so right, the layoff is the payoff for your greediness, I certainly hope that those being laid off are the ones that were on the picket line in the first place and not the ones that chose to work and not be greedy and wanting more. God sure works in mysterious ways to those not content with what they have.....Guess who is getting the last word...GOD!!!!
  • Posted By: Elaine: Of course, this is not good news but at least you get to work thru the holidays and you get a 60 day notice instead of just a few days.
  • Posted By: JD: "Alan", i dont know whether to say your comments are stupid or ignorant. If you think the layoffs have nothing to do with the strike, then you are just naive. Boeing and Spirit can make you beleive whatever they want to. But look at the facts, how can it not have to do with the strike.Think about it, you guys struck for more pay and they said ok. And now they are laying off obvisously because there is not enough money to keep the workforce where it is at now. Hmm to me that sounds like because you greedy employees wanted more and now they cant afford it. Just my opinion! So how about you look at the obvious instead of looking at things through you Boeing blinders. Way to go strikers now you can explain to your families why things are tight just like the other hard workers who got laid off because of your laziness. Best wishes to those families who had nothing to do with the strike and for the ones who did....well KARMA is a wonderful thing.
  • Posted By: Johnny B: See what that strike got you . Next time maybe you wont be so greedy . There is no such thing as job security anymore !!!!
  • Posted By: PJ: I do work for Spirit in Wichita. I also used to work for Boeing. As soon as the strike ended I told my wife "Here come the layoffs". It has happened every time there has been a strike at Boeing. Spirit immune to the layoffs plauging the industry? Dont bet on it. Everyday there are more and more people losing their jobs. That translates into less money for people to take that vacation to grandmas for Christmas, that weekend trip to Vegas, that....you get the picture. Less people flying hurts everyone. Right now Spirit is over built because of the strike. How much longer will management keep people on 3 days, when it is cheaper to lay us off so as not to pay for our benefits. If you're not a little anxious over this, then you must be living in a different world then the rest of us. This country hasn't seen anything yet, if congress doesn't help out the automakers. 2,000,000 unemployed is a lot of people. I'd rather see congress bail out the A/I then the Banking and Security industries.
  • Posted By: dc: Too bad to to read some comments in this section. Well, we have to admit and accept the truth that in business we can't guarantee it stays strong. Sometimes it happened like this that business turn down and many of the people getting their bread & butter from it, so it is so sad and depressing, right?..but let us think of wonderful thing and start seeking another job, i think there are still jobs around there that awaits you - don't lose the hope you know and be strong enough to face crisis like this and im sure you grow as well because this is life!
  • Posted By: Alan: Hey K, get a clue, because you do not have one! The military cut back at Boeing is NOT affecting Spirit. I suggest you get your facts straight before aimlessly flapping your gums.
  • Posted By: Anon: The United Auto Workers union has bankrupted the automobile industry, and has the companies so burdened with labor costs that they cannot possibly compete with Toyota, Volvo, Nissan, etc. The aircraft industry and the IAM would be smart to apply that lesson to the aviation industry.
  • Posted By: John: It still proves that the amount of morons that Wichita has. The layoffs have nothing to do with the strike. But every moron that thinks it does will have something stupid to say about it
  • Posted By: K: Hey alan, you genius my husband works there and was told this, i am very well aware boeing is the military area in wichita but apparently that does not matter. So before you spout your crap, don't forget others are in the front line of the layoffs and may actually know what they are talking about. Talk about being uneducated and calling the kettle black!
  • Posted By: Alan: If some of you idiots making these stupid comments, actually find your way onto the payroll of an aircraft company, and they, the company, find out that you really are extremely stupid, that can't understand or do your job, you will probably be made a manager. Boeing has used this technique forever, and Spirit is continuing the trend. You go boy, you go girl!!
  • Posted By: janet: Good going union. Protect your company rights and now because of your greed your people have no...Job. When will you learn that when you get greedy you lose. For all of you who said you were on strike to protect your family, you sure did. Hope you don't lose your home and car and everything you have because now you have NO JOB. You deserve it.
  • Posted By: Alan: The stupidity and ignorance runs deep on this comment section of KAKE. The layoffs have nothing to do with the recent strike. It has everything to do with a few military contracts concluding. The plan was to move the employees that were working on these contracts over to the new tanker program for the United States Air Force. But since our wonderful politicians decided to spend our hard earned tax dollars to pay Airbus to build the aircraft instead, these high skilled mod mechanics are now being laid off. You morons that make these totally uninformed comments amaze me, as you probably do others that read this section also. I can't decide if the fact that you are so severely uneducated, that you can not obtain a decent job other than flipping burgers at McDonalds or you are just plan stupid, and feel the need to lash out at persons that are considered skilled labor. And to the genius that thinks a military cutback will affect Spirit, why would it? They are military, we here at Spirit, are in the most part, commercial. Can some of you not read at all? Educate yourselves prior to making a fool of yourself, like making these half witted comments. If you are that stupid, at least try and learn to appear that you know what you are talking about, so far, most on here are failing, miserably.
  • Posted By: Kenny: I just told my wife after the strike, I said "Just wait, now that they are going back to work, boeing will layoff!" I love being right.
  • Posted By: Joy: Bet your glad you striked now huh?
  • Posted By: q: I only read that they are laying off in wichita. Will they be laying off in Seattle or any other place?
  • Posted By: K: Was told out of rumor that if Boeing lays off then Spirit will lay off too, just lovely for those that are still on 3 day work weeks out there, only to possibly get laid off after the 1st of the year.
  • Posted By: john: Wichita is soon to be the new Detroit in Kansas. The IAM does not know about people....only about greed. I would bet the laid off workers at Beechcraft, Cessna, and Boeing would take a wage cut over layoffs and losing their jobs any day...but thanks IAM...that is not an option. If the companies go bankrupt there will be no jobs for anyone. All of the older employees (IAM members) do not care...seniority makes their jobs safe...or so they think...WAKE UP YOU ARE NEXT! History will show unions to be the demise of american industry. And to think the engineers at Boeing want a 20% pay increase in their new contract? Whatever! Pay attention to Detroit...Wichita is next and the IAM is the issue along with greedy people!
  • Posted By: : HaHaHa to bad,good thing ya strike...........
  • Posted By: : It appears the strike for job security.. didn't work out that well.
  • Posted By: : WAY TO GO IAM!!! Let the Union revel in their victory. Wait victory implies a win - this doesn't look like a win to me....lol...lol...lol...;-)
  • Posted By: : Anyone want to take a back the strike that the Union just had. Part of the reason why 800 jobs are going to be gone.
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