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Updated: 5:50 PM Dec 17, 2007
Trains Collide South of Derby
One of the victims remains in critical condition in a Wichita hospital. Posted: 10:10 AM Dec 17, 2007Email Address: news@kake.com |
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James, that was my point exactly.. Railroads are the way to go. As far as CTC, I know that the WB train was moving from Main to Main 1 and was trailing through the CTC point. The EB would have had a diverging approach at the previous signal. There is no way anything other than Stop could have been indicated at the signal the EB got by since the plant was occupied. And, anonymous, even though the tracks run North and South, it is Railroad East and West.
granted, CTC isn't flawless. all a dispatcher can do to "override" the system is for the crew to flag a stop indication and that will put them at restricted speed. so they should have stopped short of the other train. unless the signal dept. wired the signal wrong since the last train had passed, a dispatcher cannot give a proceed indication into an occupied track circuit. also, if a switch is out of correspondence, the circuit will not clear for the dispatcher to light anyone up. but all these points are moot if it was indeed a signal system failure. and yes, sadly the boards are short this time of year which can lead to crew fatigue
First off just because it is CTC doesn't mean it is flawless. I have seen it fail a few times as a Conductor. And James if you really know.. then you need to think because the dispatcher can overide. Unfortunately you may be right about someone missing a signal. But, what do you expect when you are 12-17 hours on and 6 1/2 off because they cut the boards so short this time of year. My bet is still on the signal system failing... probably a switch out of correspondense due to icy weather and traffic. Unruh you have no clue how many lives are saved by trains taking trucks off the road. One Stack Train eliminates atleast 266 cross country trucks and saves the fuel economy that much more. Oh and it is more safe. And as far as city limits go I bet you the Railroad was there before the city in most cases.
my husband drives a big truck and people that drive little trucks and cars can cause the same amount of accidents as big rigs do by the way they cut off the big trucks i have seen it.
hey "do your research", nobody mentions the UP because it was a UP run-through empty coal train operated by a BNSF crew. It would be rare for this to come down to the dispatcher, this is CTC (centralized traffic control) territory, unless there is a signal malfunction, it is impossible for a dispatcher to give signals to both trains into each other. Most likely, a red signal was ran by one of the crews. as for fred, lets see those extra 5000 trucks back on the highways and see how many motorists would be killed with the extra traffic. railroads are the way to go
I think NB = Northbound and SB = Southbound
first of all nobody here really knows what they are talking about beside the women whos husband is an engineer. first red theres not even a NB train get it right its BN standing for Burlington Northern which is the green train, and whats SB you mean SF which means Santa Fe which is the yellow and blue train, which if you people have put it together yet those are older trains and know they have joined becoming BNSF orange and black. you people need to do the research before getting on here and blowing smoke, i work for the railroad and have friends that work for UP union pacific which none of you guys have even mention about that traing being half way ripped down the middle. it comes down to the dispatcher do your research and maybe what you said and what you mean will start making a little more sense huh! Everyone should be thankfull that nobody has died yet and that those injured return back to good health. Everyone that says they come by here to much and this and that are wrong!
the train co. need to pull thier heads out so they don't KILL more people. I have had people close be killed by trains going way too fast for city limits when it has been blind crossings
Unruh makes a good point, lets put 4000 or 5000 trucks back on the road to replace just a small portion of the rail traffic contained by a just a few trains.
Actually the trains come through a lot more often than one every ten minutes but that is not what caused today’s wreck and there were no flammable liquids or fertilizer involved. The NB train should have gotten a signal to stop further south until the SB train was in the clear. Either the signals malfunctioned or the crew of the NB ran through a stop signal; time will tell. The thing you should be worried about is fatigued crews. Trainmen works some long shifts and are expected do again the next day on minimal rest. My thoughts and prayers go out for the injured trainmen to make a complete and speedy recovery.
I saw the accident and one of the engines was pretty much in half. It makes you wonder what happened. You never think that something like this would happened. I am just happy nobody was killed. Hopefully the people involved in the accident get better soon.
I think the train tracks run north south WEST of K-15.
THESE TRAINS COME THROUGH HERE ON AN HOULY BASIS!!!!HOW MANY TRAIN ACCIDENTS IS IT GOING TO TAKE BEFORE SOME ACTION IS TAKIN....IT DOESNT TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MIX FLAMABLE LIQUIDS WITH FERTILIZER....
This is a terrible accident, I hope everyone is okay and survives. My husband is an engineer and I know how dangerous this line of work can be.