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Updated: 7:13 AM Oct 31, 2007
Escapees & Former Guard Still Missing - Reward Offered
Despite finding clothes belonging to two escaped inmates 300 miles away in Oklahoma, authorities are still no closer to capturing the men. They're hoping a $5,000 reward for information leading to their arrest helps in the capture. Posted: 9:20 PM Oct 28, 2007Email Address: news@kake.com |
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To The citizens of Kansas: Goff, Bell and Ford have helped prove to all of use that the Kansas Prison systems is a fraud. Super-Max, my butt. We are all in grave danger. I have been informed by several reliable sources that there is absolutely no concept of security, at the El Dorado prison. All the administration is concerned about is keeping tobacco out of the prison. WOW! I am so happy to hear that my tax dollars are keeping tobacco at bay. Hey, here is a great thought. How about keeping the guns, knives, bolt cutters and drugs out. How about treating your staff better, so you are able to retain your better guards. Stop firing guards for not attending church services - RAY. Your running a prison, not searching for lost disciples. I also want to hear more from someone about these post release inmates committing crimes and not being sent back to prison. What's that all about? (Extortion by the State)
Jennifer. Check your grammar (sentence structure and punctuation)) before you chuck a rock at someone else. Also, it would be nice if you could contribute something other than your own elitism to this discussion. Thank you Jen.
2 out of 5 towers ARE MANNED 24/7. Don't listen to that schmuck from Topeka. Secondly yard in the cell house where those 2 were housed is done on second shift. This is because they can't do more than one cell house at once because conflicts occur between inmates from other cell houses. 3rdly second shift is currently under staffed 30-40 employees as well as the other shifts too but second is the worst. For the guy explaining the human error factor it didn't start with opening doors without someone there. First off it's now 2 people to even open a beanhole. Secondly the "human error" factor would of had to start after escorting them to the showers prior to yard to be strip searched. somehow they got wire cutters out to yard. And from there I'm still boggled. For anyone that has worked there we understand how mind boggling this is and how much planning and risk there is to escape from segregation. There is still much to be uncovered.
Only one tower is manner, the others are vacant. El Dorado is always short by 75 security staff members. For those that think it isn't Topeka's fault, let me tell you this. You sound like you are from Central Office, with your hands-off attitude. Roger Werholtz (and crew) doesn't want ANY accountability for his prisons. He is scared to death of litigation and would gladly lay blame on his people for anything he won't take credit for. The problem IS Topeka. Stop with the kinder-gentler DOC and start enforcing good security practices. Get your heads out of your butts (Topeka), get the proper funding for your facilities and cease with political, feel-good politics and dog-and-pony show antics where inmates can't be held accountable for their actions. Start acting like professionals and treat your employees (in all facilities) like they are assets. These problems are only going to get worse because there is NO leadership from the top. Hello Topeka ? Your prisons are run by the inmates !
Woo-hoo, they got caught, now string'em up!
The post I hope thay get away, use spell check it is they!
hope thay get away
I would like everyone to know that Amber Goff's mother, Laurie Nutter, she is my first cousin. I am a police officer in a Lubbock Texas, I more that anyone want the guys caught. I feel the worse thing could and might happen. Many time the worse happens, but you dont ever think that I could or might happen. When I got the news, I just had to thing twice but for it really sunk in. I then began to search Kansas TV stations to really confrim things. This is my job in looking for people this was and I did search all places the car might be, the places began to be massive, they could be anywhere. But I want to nail these people more ways than one can imagine, not only in the safety of the public, but a peace officers stand point. It has not sunk in still. They will be found and off the streets before they really HURT someone. I would like to see ALL PRISONS in the MAXIMUM SECURITY style, even FEDERAL. No House arrest etc, so this((prison breaks)) never happens AT ALL. THX 2 ALL B SAFE.
I too have worked for the KDOC. I left to become a police officer and make more money. I can't say much about EDCF for the govenor needs to wake up...if you pay like shit, and treat your people like shit then guess what, you will get shitty people working for you. Ole Amber looks like she just climbed out of the trailer park and thats what EDCF paid for. This is the states fault, and I agree more then amber involved in this one. Probably still a female employee working out there in love.
was she kidnapped before or after she left the car for them to get away in....wait maybe it was after she got the driving directions to canada......i bet it was after she rented the car in oklahoma.....or could it have been after the guns were taken from family and ammo was purchased for them and reciepts were found in her home?........things that make you go DUH!!!!
First of all, is it true that all the towers are not manned? I was told by a good source this was true. Those who work there or have worked there enlighten us. Second, just because they THINK it was a female officer that assisted the prisoners, doesn't mean all female officers are on the take. Third, right now, I don't care where you work. For the most part we are not paid what we feel is enough. Yes, the job is crap, if so, don't work there, unless you enjoy it. If so then stay with it. No one is getting raises now days. It is tough all over. Fourth, lots of folks work there because they like that type of environment, "yes sir", "no sir" "I have authority over you" attitude.(especially upper managment) Yes it would be nice to make more money but don't blame wages on human error. Find a job you can live on for less if you think the job s**ks. Plain and simple.
Im a ex employee of EDCF and there is no doubt in my mind that there was atleast 3-4 employees helping the escape of these two inmates. all the cell houses are split in half with atleast 1 officer on each side and one person in Control. and it the unit where they were housed they have 2 officers on each side. The doors are not to be opened in Seg with out a officer at the door, which means the officers on the floor either game the control officer the ok to open the door or they just set there and allowed the inmates to walk out the door. Second the control had to open atleast 3 secured doors leading out to the yard area. I know for a fact that when i worked there from 1999 - 2003 there hour a day began @ 7am. so there is no reason they should have been out there. They have been under staffed and under paid for a long time, and that need to change before someone really gets hurt. Better pay would get you Better employees.
This might come as a suprise to some, however after i started in 1995 there was a lieutenant(female) that was fired after it was discovered that she was trying to sneak a inmate out that she had a relationship with. One thing i ask that people keep in mind is that a team is only good as the leader and when heads start rolling over this it should start at the top. We have witnessed warden roberts many times attending social events to raise money for the chapel they are wanting to build out there. Maybe this money would find better use elsewhere. When is the last time we have seen him want to raise money for security improvements or staff raises? I believe a investigation should be completed by an outside agency. I worked 7 of my 9 years of employment in these so called (lockdown) units and have always stated that these units should be ran by hand chosen staff. This was after we lowered testing scores and age requirements of projected employees.
Clearly there were several areas of human error, that's a fact. I have a friend who works for the DOC, he said that several fences would have to have been cut before the escape. He also said there should have be a camera on the area, inmates should have been searched before they went into the "dog run" and officers should have been searched or scanned before they entered the prision - lots of steps not folled. I read the comments below and am a bit concerned with the notes that say the facilities are understaffed? When you think of 1 to 2 officers to 100 inmates and compare that to 1 school teacher for every 15 to 20 students, something is really wrong with this picture. Working in an environment with murderers should warrent more officer protection... I would think. Is this a true statement? What is the liability to the State if employees get hurt? Are we setting ourselves up for more break outs? What's going on, who's guarding who? Seems to me our politians to to pay attention.
They did not cut through the fence the prision is hiding the factes