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Taking On A Controversial Story
Topic Author: Jared Cerullo
Posted: 4:48 PM Feb 24, 2008
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Taking On A Controversial Story

There has been a lot of "back-and-forth" arguing going on regarding a story I did last week involving a Sedgwick County Jail inmate who was beaten inside the detention facility earlier this month, so I wanted to address some of the accusations about fact and non-fact.

If you haven't seen the story, you can view it here:  http://www.kake.com/home/headlines/15895352.html

I knew this story would be a touchy one.  It is one of those topics where you're going to upset one half or the other.  But the bottom line is, a man was severely injured because of the altercation and I felt it was our responsibility to take an objective look at what happened.

First of all, I wanted to respond directly to a commenter named Bob.  Here is his post:

 "How is it that most of the people on here, so easily want to hang the deputy out to dry without knowing all the facts? Is it that most of the people that post on here were once inmates at the facility themselves? To those individuals there is nothing that any of the deputies could have done that would be correct. For the others you need to let all the facts come out cause I can tell you this much (Kake on your side) has the facts all screwed up like they always do when it comes to reporting what is going on in the Detention facility. First big flaw in their reporting is that the inmate in question is a coma from the beat down. Wrong!!! he was medically placed into a coma do to his mental state. They where afraid that he would hurt himself or staff more while at the hospital. Second big flaw that the report is that they did not tell you is that when the family did show up at the hospital there was not the 3 that they showed on TV. There was close to 15 people all trying to get in to see him."

While I can't respond to Bob's question regarding other posters intentions, I will respond to his accusations regarding the factual basis of the story.  Numerous attempts were made to find out the exact condition of the inmate.  My phone messages to hospital staff have all gone unanswered.  Meanwhile, the sheriff's department says they won't comment about any medical history or condition because of HIPPA privacy concerns.  Therefore, the only report of a condition on the victim I can get is from his family who, admittedly, was not being allowed any visitation at the time the story went to air.  They have since been allowed 1-hour, daily visits with one person at a time.

There were many things the family claimed that I did not include in the story.  Some of it was due to time constraints and some of it was due to the inability to back up what they claimed.  However, the only report of a condition on the victim came from the family.  I had no choice but to rely on what they said.  I personally heard the ambulance chatter on the scanners when he was transported to the hospital. 

Again, repeated calls to hospital staff have not been returned and the sheriff's department won't comment on anything medical regarding the victim because of HIPPA privacy concerns.  This includes questions about the victim being in a coma.  A number of posters have mentioned that Mr. Richard was placed in a medically-induced coma due to his mental instability.  Those questions were asked and not answered.

As far as the visitation goes, the department's response to not allowing the family to visit the man was clearly stated.  Col. Hinshaw explained, "Just because he's in the hospital doesn't mean his privileges are any different than anybody else's.  We have to maintain a controlled environment."  And, personally, I agree with him.

We all know that a detention facility is an extremely volatile environment.  In fact, Col. Hinshaw reported to me that there were 217 use-of-force write-ups at the Sedgwick County Jail last year.  That's 4-5 altercations per week!  Obviously, we don't do stories on all of them.  On the other hand, this specific incident led to the very serious injury of the inmate and the suspension of the deputy involved.  The case was also given to the district attorney for possible charges.  With all of those factors, this was clearly not your run-of-the-mill jail fight.

In closing, I want to pass along my utmost respect to all law enforcement officers, including the very brave people who work inside detention facilities.  It's a job that few are cut out for and many find easy to criticize.  Just like every beat cop on the street, their lives are at risk every single day.  Thank you for doing a job that I, personally, would never want to do.

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Posted by: mary thank you David from andover it is rough out there in the big world you should be able to trust law enforcememt not be treated like everyone is a criminal. each person and each story is different .law enforcement judges you before even getting to the bottom of the problem. treat people as you would want to be treated. in my opinion there are no nice officers out there (well i havent met any) in kake land. i know that their job is not easy but lighten up a little on all the law abiding citizens and please stop sterotyping everyone, there is bad and good in all races. so take the time to see what the problem is before acting like big bullies, and maybe law enforcement would not have such a bad name.

Posted by: David Location: Andover
I think the reason everyone is quick to hang the officer on stories like this is because of how law enforcement treats the general public during limited interaction like traffic stops. They act like jerks most of the time instead of trying to be teachers of the law. When you do meet a genuinely nice officer, you are shocked and speechless due to its rarity. Many of them acting like a bunch of arrogant bullys has gotten them all stereotyped. Thats why they have all of those demeaning nick names on TV and in the movies.

Posted by: Dawn Location: Kansas
I cannot believe the numbers of people that are attacking the deputy. We do not know if he went above and beyond what was necessary to protect himself or not. Everything I have heards has said he was the only deputy present. There IS usually only one deputy to AT LEAST 40 inmates. How would you like those odds? Thankfully most inmates don't want more trouble and stay out of someone else's fight. If not, imagine what kind of danger those deputies woudl be in on a daily basis. LEO's - Thank you for all you do!

Posted by: Alan Location: Wichita
Kim, there are over a thousand law enforcement officer's in this general area. You have summed that all of them are bad. A hundred years ago, there was a fraction of that many officer's. Ask yourself why we have so many now. Because crimes have changed and are on the rise! I would like you to get a clue, watch the news and read reports as to how bad it is out there instead of never-neverland where you appearently live. I'll tell you what's out of control, kids and cons. Put on a badge, hop in a car, and take some calls. Then you will see the real world!

Posted by: kim Location: wichita
in response to the comment posted by anonymous how could you say that the deputy had all rigt to beat this man and put him in the hospital if this was one of your family members would you accept that this happened to them would you see this as being okay. this is UNACCEPTABLE you know even deputys make mistakes and just because they are law enforcement they need to accept responsibility for what they did. i am sure that this man was up against more then one deputy you knpw i am so tired of law enforcement getting away with everything they do to the citizens. if we as a community cannot trust our law enforcement then what can we do to feel safe. law enforcement are very rude to people they always feel that they are superior .i am really sick of it this is not the only time something like this has happened in our jail system when is all this gong to stop! MAYBE BETTER TRAINING would help law enforcement deal with mental as well as sane people. something has to be done now

Posted by: me why cant you post that the deputy was choked and had marks to prove it all??? oh wait we cant feel sorry for the deputy just the bad guys.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: WICHITA
Why hasnt anyone said anything about what happened to the Deputy do you realize that this man was being choked by an inmate and had marks to prove it??? He used the amount of force to get the situation back in control. I do not feel sorry for the inmate he should have not atacked the Deputy. So why dont you do a story about that instead of man beatin behind bars do a story on Deputy gets choked my inmate oh and maybe look in to how many times deputies get hit kick choked even cut by these criminal that do nothing wrong in your alls eyes thanks for being on our side kake... great suport for law enforcemnt!!!!

Posted by: Wife of an officer Location: Wichita ,Kansas
Jared I just wanted to say you need to know more of the whole story before you start making our law enforcement officers look like the bad guys really look into the whole thing. Do you know how many times these officers are threatened on a daily bases and not just them there families. These men and women are very strong and willing people that get very little respect from anyone!! For the officer who is being punished for doing your job keep your head up there is more people on your side than you might think. For those who thinks the officer was in the wrong do the job that officer was doing for a week it will open your eyes and make you see that these men and women risk their lives to protect and serve.

Posted by: Anonymous It amazes me how many people are so wuick to judge the deputy. This guy was at one point choking the deputy. Nobody seems to remember that or even care. The deputy had every right to put him in the hospital, if this would have happpend on the streets the guy would have been shot and killed.

Posted by: kim Location: wichita
I feel that everyone has a right to be treated like a human being. I know that people do make mistakes in their lives, I am sure everyone has, but to be treated like a animal just because you have a mental illness is so wrong in my book.yes he committed a crime, and yes he is in jail for it. Does that mean that he is to be treated any different then how the deputy would want to be treated if the shoe was on the other foot. sometimes i think the job title of being a deputy goes to their head. its just a job title it makes you no different then all the citizens in wichita ks. It is a sad thing that this had to happen for someone to stand up and take notice of whats really going on in our jail system. My prayers are with the family.

Posted by: facility worker Location: wichita
I myself come from a denention facility background of more than 8 years. I have to say i have always worked with juv's which is not a piece of cake either. There are many violent, mentally ill, abused kids in this system but they all deserve to be treated like human beings. I have worked with people who do not belong in this line of work and think hey this kid is in here hes rude, disrespectful, and violent why not lets put our hands on him and show him who's boss. Many times i saw things go way beyond what they needed to, and as to the situation at hand at the scf im sure (opion only) this was also the case. Everyone needs to be treated like humans, but lets look at the underlaying issue and try to resolve some of this...maybe it was the parents abusing the kids, physically, mentally, or maybe this person is mentally ill.... If given the right opportunity and respect maybe there wouldnt be so many issues in places like this.....treat people as you would want to be treated!!!!

Posted by: Just me Why not instead of a headline that makes it sound like the deupties just beat the tar out of this man, could you not find one a little less dramatic? How about Man in altercation with deputies ends up in coma? Your headline, to me, sounds like you are judge, jury and executioner of the deupties involved.

Posted by: Mark Location: Wichita
To the anonymous person that stuck up for the Deputy, and ridiculed KAKE for their reporting tactics. One wors sums it all up.....Thanks!

Posted by: ds Location: wichita
Having gotten in trouble for the first time recently and having to spend 48 hours with Sedgwick County...I saw things I plan on never seeing again. I was in a womans pod...and one lady was to be moved and she asked why and they wouldnt tell her, she again asked why and in one move she was cuffed and on the floor and being physically moved to a different place. My thoughts were that this lady asked a question, how hard would it have been to answered her question and not like she was a dog because she was there? so maybe they should look at the situation as that?

Posted by: T Location: JC
If in fact this inmate was being given the wrong medication he had every right not to take it. If in fact a nurse was the one administering the medication the question is what policies are in place to make sure the inmates get the right medications, double checking id and meds? maybe two people to varify meds? It is not out of the realm of possibility that this man was being given the wrong meds, it happens everyday in hospitals everywhere so why not in the jail? How about this man's mental illness? Do any of you realize how many inmates are in jail because of their mental illness? These people fall thru the cracks which are more like canyons here in kansas. No one cares about the mentally ill until they do something wrong then they use it as an excuse to blame the person for what happens to them. If the person giving the meds argued with the inmate instead of double checking the meds then what part of the beating are they responsible for?

Posted by: Concerned Location: Wichita
From past experience with the mental health community in Wichita inmates with mental illness have limited access to medications, meaning they can be changed to a completely different combination of medication based on the inventory of the jail. This man was not a violant man on the streets he always reported to clinics to pick up his medications weekly and attend doctors appointments as scheduled. There are many mentally ill in our jails which just point out the need for more funding for community mental health providers as well as education.

Posted by: Anonymous ...Continued... can seem to have super-human strength. They may not feel pain like you and I do, so the lesser use of force may be ineffective. Regardless of what side you are on this is a situation that im certain none of the people involed wanted to happen. Local news media's should not be so quick to prejudice public opinion with incomplete information. Local media should be impartial in their reporting and all too often appear as if you are not. To put so much weight on the statements of "family" members, who obviously, and understandably, are one sided in their opinion of that happened is not responsible journalism.

Posted by: Anonymous ...Continued.... Or did the Deputy defend himself. Did the suspect just lay there while the Deputy hit and kicked him (beating), or was he actively fighting with and resisting the deputy. There are dozens of factors that go into deciding an appropriate use of force and excessive force, age and size difference, exhaustion, access to a weapon, injury, number of officers compared to number of suspects, willingness or the suspect to resist, training of the officer and special skills of the suspect, and the list goes on. We dont have the answer to any of those yet to repeatedly say the man was beaten indicates that you believe the deputies use of force was excessive. As for all the posts talking about the man having mental illness and the deputies should have treated him differently, well first off the man was reportedly off his meds. The deputies can not hold him down and force pills down his throat. Second some mentally ill persons can be extremely violent and when they get violent....

Posted by: Anonymous How can you say that you took an objective look at this story? You have only on side of the issue, the families. They were not there, they do not know what happened. I agree that the public has a right to know. But the problem I have with this story and most like it it that you do not have all of the facts. You were not there so you do not know what happened. The lack of factual evidence on the incident itself leads to speculation. In the court of public opinion this officer is guilt, when at this point there is absolutely no evidence made public to prove any wrong doing. I agree this story should have been ran but ONLY after all of the investigations are complete and all of the evidence made public. The only thing this story has accomplished is further dividing this community and strengthening the hatred and disturst of local law enforcement. This story insinuates from the very begining, with its title, some type of wrong doing by the deputy. "Man Beaten Behind Bars." Was he beaten?

Posted by: Just some thoughts I will admit in the beginning...I work in a detention facility as a medical staff provider. That guard not only defended himself but also the nursing staff passing this 'ill' inmate's meds. I can say without little hesitation, this inmate more than likely did not take care of himself outside of jail or get 'help' for his mental illness. I'll agree with an earlier post that we are not equiped to deal with all the mental illnesses that come into the jails. These inmates don't care and have nothing to lose. This inmate's family is concerned now but where was their concern before?? No visitations or money on his books in jail...come on this is all for the cameras now. As far as his family and the visitation rights at the hospital, keep it up with one hour a day. No one back at the jail gets any more and remember people, HE IS AN INMATE. The deputy whether 18 or 48 doesn't need to be drug through the mud yet...hell those inmates get a fair trial and they are innocent until PROVEN guilty!!!

Posted by: Elizabeth Location: Wichita
If this inmate was able to be out on the street and not mentally ill enough to be commited to an instituton then he should serve and be held responsible for his own actions. Jail employees should not have to fear for their lives when they go to work and Sedgwick county should not put them in the position to where they feel threatened. If the jail employee's life was threatened I believe that they were justified in their actions. Hasn't anyone ever watched any of those reality jail shows and seen what kind of crap that they put up with. There is a reason people are in jail, it is not supposed to be a disireable place. If you did the crime pay the time.

Posted by: just me Location: Kansas
I agree that information should not be released until the investigation is complete. However, there is another side to this story and that is what the hospital is obligated to do. I wouldhope that the prisoner is under guard however, hospital shave their own set of policies and procedures and need to follow them. This gentleman's family should be allowed to visit or at least have some information about his condition given to them. If this gentleman dies, who will be notified then? Or will he just be buried without the family's knowledge?

Posted by: Jennifer Location: WIchita
I understand all of the points that all of you have made on here, but I think everyone is so quick to judge the family and does not give them one chance! I feel that there are many people out there that make mistakes or who deserve to be in jail for braking laws, but there families did not do this, the person did and if my brother, father, mother, or any other family memeber was laying in a hospital bed and I did not know if I was ever going to see this person alive again, I would want to be there supporting or spending time with my family member also! I am not saying this was right on either part, but everyone needs to look at the whole picture and not just what they want to see he is still a human and his family still loves him no matter what! My brother is in jail right now and I do agree with why he is there, but that does not make me a bad person and it does not make me love him any different. I do not understand why he does things he does, but I am not to blame for his mistakes.

Posted by: just me Location: kansas
I have read and watched stories about this incident. As a nurse and family member of someone with mental illness, I have to wonder how many inmates in our jails and prisons have mental illnesses and do not get professional help while incarcerated. Just knowing that many prisoners exhibit behaviors that can cause harm, why aren't employees of these facilities given the resources needed to protect themsleves and also their charges? I thnk there also needs to be some changes in privacy laws concerning mentally ill patients so someone can step in and be a voice for those who have a diagnosis of mental ilness.

Posted by: keith Location: wichita
As a reserve I worked in the jail years ago. ive also served in the military in vietnam and ill take vietnam over working in the jail any day ..........its safer

Posted by: Worried on the Job Location: Wichita
Okay Jared, you've been around long enough interviewing law enforcement to know they are not going to comment about things during an active investigation, especially into the conduct of the LEO. You shouldn't have used the information about the condition when there was no authority with direct knowledge about the man's condition telling you about it. I agree with running the story. We deserve to know what's going on in our jail, especially since we are getting double charged for it now. I would like to know if this was one of the new 18-year-old deputies. How many of the use of force cases involved these children. I'm in law enforcement and I sympathize with the family. Col. Hinshaw is right, we have to wait and see what happens with the investigations - it's plural. The family may be well within their rights to sue. That's why we have judges and courts. You were wrong to lay his condition out there - and continue to report it. KAKE needs to focus more attention on that jail - today.

Posted by: Kristen Thank you for your recent address to this case. I only hope that with all the attention the public and obviously some detention staff have given on the comment section that you (KAKE NEWS) as a public servent for information will find it as equally important to investigate the conditions and policies the administration sets forth for the inmates and deputies safty. Of all the comments we have heard, alot sound like they are coming from detention staff...it sounds to me almost a cry for help. A want for public to know what type of atmosphere these policies are forcing them to work in. One other great point made is we need more assistance and help in handling these "mentally ill" people. Placing them in jail with people not trained to handle these types of illnesses seems to be what could have led to this very sad incodent for both the inmate and the deputy! Kake on your side...look into the jail and the policies, requirements for employment est. as well as following this case. Thank you

Posted by: Dawn Location: Kansas
I feel for a family when they don't know the how's and why's of anothers medical condition but I agree with the rules not changing for an inmate just because his location has changed. There cannot be exceptions. Detention deputies are not given as much respect as they should. Inmates have already done something to land in jail. It's a dangerous job and deputies have only their hands to protect them should the need arise. They need to be shown more respect by the public and given more pay! Like you said, It's a job that few are cut out for and many find easy to criticize.