KAKE becomes the third, digital only KAKEland Television Network station
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KAKE becomes the third, digital only KAKEland Television Network station
Topic Author: Jay Prater
Posted: 6:59 AM Feb 18, 2009
Replies Posted: 37 comments
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At 11:58pm, on February 17, 2009 KAKE analog, VHF channel 10, was switched off forever.

At 11:58pm, on February 17, 2009 KAKE-DT 10.1 digital, UHF channel 21, was also switched off forever.

At 12:01am, February 18, 2009 KAKE-DT 10.1 digital, VHF channel 10, returned to the air, on its permanent RF channel.

Initially, we must broadcast at 28.25kW of Effective Radiated Power from atop our tower in Sedgwick County, near Colwich. The modification of the second half of our channel 10 transmitter for digital should be complete within three weeks.

If you tried to view our free over-the-air UHF digital signal before February 18, 2009 and had trouble, please try again, now that we’re transmitting on a VHF channel.

The type of antenna is very important. You’ll need a VHF antenna now, too.  Make sure your antenna is capable of receiving VHF signals. FYI…there is no such thing as a “digital antenna” that’s only a marketing label. There are only TV antennas.
If you continue to have trouble, I’ll post a new blog, when we are pushing our full 56.5kW ERP. However, please remember that the 28.25kW we’re currently broadcasting should, at least, equal our old analog coverage area. If you were watching KAKE-DT 10.1 before 2/18, again please remember, that was a UHF signal, and we’re now on VHF.
 

Placing a larger antenna as high as possible, in the attic, or outside, will always work better than “rabbit ears”, even with an amplifier.

If scanning for KAKE doesn’t work. You may also be able to manually tune to channel 10, and some converter boxes have signal strength meters to help you tweak your antenna. I also, recommend www.tvfool.com for antenna help.

Also, you’ll need either a DTV converter box, or a newer TV with a built-in ATSC tuner. The signal is on VHF RF channel 10. After your box, or TV, locks onto KAKE-DT the display will appear as 10.1, the virtual channel number.

Click here for a link to a FCC database map, showing KAKE-DT’s transmitter location. You can use this to help better aim your directional VHF antenna.

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Posted by: Jay Prater Location: KAKE
Larry: Surf to www.tvfool.com and enter your address. It will provide a list of free over-the-air digital TV stations that you may be able to receive.

Posted by: Larry Location: Wichita
To help with cost, I want to discontinue cable and use antenna and digital converter box. What channels can I expect to receive both UHF/VHF ?

Posted by: Jay Prater Location: KAKE
KAKE-DT became full-power on 4/4/09. Please read this blog posting for more information:

http://www.kake.com/blogs/dtv/42506012.html



Posted by: Jay Prater Location: KAKE
Cindy: The power boost MAY help you, onlly a little bit. Are you using "rabbit ears"?

Posted by: Jay Prater Location: KAKE
Lisa: KWCH channel 12 will (I don't have the exact date...I've heard July...but I'm not sure) move their digital signal from UHF channel 19 to VHF channel 12. So, if you are having trouble with channel 10, you may lose channel 12, too, after they switch (...since their transmitter is farther away near Hutch, and KAKE's is near Colwich). What's the make/model of your antenna?

Posted by: Jay Prater Location: KAKE
Debi: No, in Haysville you should have no problems with the current signal on 4/1/09. What make/model of antenna are you using?

Posted by: Debi Location: South Wichita/Haysville
Am I correct in thinking that since KAKE is not at full power this is the reason why the signal comes in and out during windy and/or bad weather?

Posted by: Jay Prater Location: KAKE
No...not as of 3/31/09. The transmitter manufacturer has delayed their arrival, to approve our engineer's work, and change some componets for digital. Please remember that a doubling of power is only a 3dB RF gain. It will not "double" the size of the coverage area of KAKE-DT. Word is that by 4/6/09 we should be broadcasting 56.5kW ERP.

Posted by: Jerry Location: McPherson
Has KAKE gone full power yet? I thought it was supposed to 3 weeks after the switch in February. Thanks

Posted by: Mike Location: Moundridge
Prior to Feb. 17 we were able to receive KAKE just fine. Since you switched, the signal is non-existent. After the 3 weeks or so till you said you were going to boost your signal there is little change (we did rescan). We have a converter box, UHF and VHF indoor antennae- have tried with and without an amplifier. We simply will no longer be watching KAKE since our equipment, which at one time worked just fine, will no longer receive your signal.

Posted by: Cindy Location: 5 miles nw of Inman
channel 10 is the only station that will not come in clear. There is either no signal or the picture breaks up. Is the signal not strong enough or if we need a different antenna what kind do we need?

Posted by: Lisa Location: Argonia, KS
You are the only Wichita station that we have trouble with getting a clear pic on digital. When can you get it together? I have to watch 3 and 12 now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jay Prater Location: KAKE
BF: The amplifier may be an issue. Can you turn it off, or by-pass it? Also, the antenna is directional, so a small change in position could make the difference. Instead of scanning, can you manually tune the converter to channel 10? Then make small adjustments to the antenna, stopping to see if you can get a lock. Then fine tune for best signal strength.

Posted by: bf Location: Newton
Converter Box and Winegard SS 3000 Indoor UHF/VHF Antenna (SS-3000). Yes, we have deleted 10.1 and re-scanned.

Posted by: Jay Prater Location: KAKE
BF: I need more info. What's the make and model of your antenna? Are you using a converter box, or TV with an ATSC digital tuner? Did you delete 10.1 from your channel list, and then re-scan, or manually add KAKE-DT on RF channel 10?

Posted by: BF Location: Newton
Haven't gotten Channel 10.1 since Feb. 17.

Posted by: Jay Prater Location: KAKE
James: Another thought...did you delete the "old" KAKE from the channel list on the dish box? I have a converter box made by dish...and had to delete the old KAKE from the channel list, before it would "see" and accept the new KAKE signal.

Posted by: Jay Prater Location: KAKE
James: All of the stations you listed as receiving are UHF. Do you know the make/model number of the antenna? Have you connected the antenna directly to the HDTV, by-passing the dish box? Did you repeat the off-air setup on the dish box, since we changed RF channels on 2/18?

Posted by: James Location: North east wichita
I have a non-amp 80" Boom Length, 32-Element Antenna. I get 100% KSN, KwCH, KSAS. I have the antenna pointed west-north west. The signal from KAKE was hit or miss with rabbit ears. Therefore, we bought the attic antenna prior to the switch. We run the antenna signal though the dish network box.

Posted by: Jay Prater Location: KAKE
James: Hmmm...what's the make/model. Is it amplified? I live about 20 miles away, and can get KAKE in my basement using only VHF rabbit ears. I too, have an attic mounted antenna that works great, with HDTVs that are near coax outlets. Are you getting other stations? Are you pointed toward Colwich? Were you getting KAKE digital before 2/18/09? If so, did you delete the old 10.1 (on RF channel 21) from your channel list, and either scan or manually add the new 10.1 (on RF channel 10)?

Posted by: James Location: north east wichita
Just bought a large attic antenna with both UHF and VHF capabilities and still cannot get your signal. I'm only 20 miles away from your tower. I have "tweaked" the antenna. Is there something else I need to do.

Posted by: Jay Prater Location: KAKE
Steve: What's the make and model of the antenna? A lot of people bought "HD antennas", that were UHF only. You'll need a VHF or VHF/UHF antenna to get KAKE.

Posted by: Steve Location: El Dorado
Please help me understand that on or before 2-17-09 I was able to recieve your signal on this new antenna and now we are not recieving your signal.The coverage is blue area or better.I read that you may have drop tranmitter power.When will full transmitter output be available.Thanks Steve

Posted by: Brook Location: KAKE
Brook: Indoor set-top, or outdoor? Can you provide a make and model?

Posted by: Brook Location: Moundridge
I have a uhf/vhf antenna

Posted by: Jay Prater Location: KAKE
Brook: What kind of antenna are you using? Both KSNW (NBC) and KSAS (Fox) are UHF signals. KAKE is on VHF channel 10.

Posted by: Brook Location: Moundridge
I am only getting tops 40% on your signal w/ my antenna. KSN is at 65% and fox 60%. Have you already switched to the stronger signal? If so, are you looking to increase it, because it is not good.

Posted by: Jay Prater Location: KAKE
John: KLBY has been full power digital for a while. You can read about it here:

www.kake.com/blogs/dtv/35723514.html

I'm surprised you got it at all, considering the distance you are from the KLBY transmitter. Our translator station K25CV analog channel 25 in Hays is closer, but is a low-power station. For UHF the Channel Master 4228 works very well, but you'll need a rotor to aim it. CM also makes some nice low-noise mast mounted pre-amps. Remember that's my personal opinion, please. Go to www.tvfool.com to see how far, and in which directions the stations are form your location.


Posted by: John Location: WaKeeney
Just prior to 2/23, we scanned and were able to receive 4.1 KLBY for two days. Since then, we've not received the signal. Will KLBY transmit in digital? We can receive 2.1 (Wichita), 7.1, 7.2 (Hays), 9.1, 9.2, 9.3, 9.4 (Bunker Hill), and 12.1 and 12.2 from Wichita. When you increase your power, we are hoping to receive KAKE. My next question involves antenna amplifiers. Do you recommend a specific antenna amplifier and signal range for receiving digital signals?

Posted by: Anon Location: Moundridge
We are no longer able to receive KAKE in Moundridge after the switch, even with rescanning and adjusting antennas. After your power is boosted in 2-3 weeks, will we be able to get it?

Posted by: Jay Prater Location: KAKE
Keith: As of today 2/23/09 there is no FCC deadline for the conversion of Class A, Translator, and Low-Power stations to digital. We currently do not have a timeline. There are converter boxes, with "analog pass-through" that allow you, using your remote, to switch between analog and digital broadcasts.

Posted by: Jay Prater Location: KAKE
That is an issue that we're working on. Until we have a solution, we may be forced to drop back to SD when the weather threatens. I hope this will not be the case, but this is something I personally can't control. But, my management/owner has been made very aware of this.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Wichita
You can now look forward to routine dropping out of ABC HD into standard definition whenever ANY type of severe weather watch or warning or multiple school closings has to be aired, as KAKE is too cheap to buy the equipment necessary to generate such a ticker display over HD programming!

Posted by: Keith Location: Victoria
Is KAKE waiting until June to switch translator stations in Hays and Russell to digital? Right now with half the Wichita stations digital and the other half analog, you have to shut off the converter box and connect wire directly to TV to watch KAKE. Not very convenient.

Posted by: Anonymous Now that you are broadcasting a digital signal, when you are showing abc programming in HD and there are severe weather warnings, will there be a ticker on the HD programming?

Posted by: Jay Prater Location: KAKE
Lawanna: Those channels you are getter are all UHF (3.1 is RF channel 45, 24.1 is RF channel 26, and 33.1 is on RF channel 31). KAKE is on RF channel 10 which is VHF. You need a VHF or VHF/UHF antenna. Please go to www.tvfool.com to help tweak your antenna. Since you're at 60% now, once we're pushing the additional 3dB it MAY help you lock the signal. But, a better antenna might help you get additional channels, too.

Posted by: lawanna Location: anthony,ks
i am only getting flashes of color, the signal is 60%. i am getting 3,33,24 perfectly. when is this going to change?

Posted by: Dirk Location: North Wichita
Thanks for the info. KAKE being at half-power for the time being probably explains why I can't get you, even after rescanning several times, but I can get the others. I look forward to getting you again.

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